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Spared pit bull mix attacks teen; euthanized hours later
© Copyright 2015, Finger Lakes Times, Geneva, New York. ^ | 09.08.15

Posted on 09/08/2015 7:02:51 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Edited on 09/08/2015 10:36:02 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: zek157

Was your “thought” not that there is something wrong with their gene pool? If so, I don’t agree with that. They are not born killers, they are trained that way.


61 posted on 09/08/2015 8:11:32 AM PDT by jasbd1985
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Pit Bulls are clearly misunderstood and stand no chance here of being able to live a normal and peaceful life. That said I think we should allow them to immigrate to the Middle Eastern Country of their choice so they can start new productive lives among their own kind.


62 posted on 09/08/2015 8:13:22 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: zipper

I was speaking in general terms about dogs being labeled as biters not being adoptable. Not this specific case. Obviously, it depends upon the owner. And no, I wouldn’t adopt a so called ‘biter’ if I had small children.
That’s the “ reality “.


63 posted on 09/08/2015 8:16:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

And I was speaking “in general terms” about pitbulls.


64 posted on 09/08/2015 8:19:00 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: zipper

Your snarky first post didn’t imply that.


65 posted on 09/08/2015 8:21:53 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Hm. Maybe they can be trained to take out ISIS.


66 posted on 09/08/2015 8:22:25 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy; when I fall I shall arise"-Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress)
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To: nuconvert

“Just because a dog has bitten people in the past, doesn’t necessarily make it unadoptable.”

That interesting bit of information right there bestows a huge liability on someone who would do so.


67 posted on 09/08/2015 8:23:31 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A couple months ago we adopted a lab/mix puppy from a local shelter. We saw the mother. She looked to be a lab crossed with a border collie. We took the little guy home and as he has grown we’ve noticed a few features that have us thinking dad was at least part pit bull. The shape of the head, ears that stick out and can be directionally pointed like a chameleon’s eyes, short hair, and long skinny tail. But so far he is very sweet, extremely calm for a puppy, very smart, and has been a total joy to have around.

I think we’ll keep him.


68 posted on 09/08/2015 8:25:16 AM PDT by toast
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To: SgtHooper

“That interesting bit of information right there bestows a huge liability on someone who would do so.”

Yes, it does. You have an added responsibility when you own any dog that you know will bite people.


69 posted on 09/08/2015 8:28:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: jasbd1985
It all boils down to how they are raised

You may be an OK person but I personally think all who spout this crud should suffer painful facial lacerations. Maybe be dragged from the back of a truck face down for a few blocks.

Badly treated collies or poodles do not rip the face off of kids. In some way you will be held accountable for this fallacy. I never wish pain on others but for you I make this exception.

70 posted on 09/08/2015 8:29:10 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: ScottinVA

I own 2 pit bull mixes. For both dogs, the other half is lab. One looks more lab and the other looks just like a pit bull, buth with large floppy ears.

I brought them home when they were tiny and they were given to us by a family friend.

The doberman pinscher I owned previously for 9 years (bought at 6 weeks old from a breeder) was way more aggressive than these 2 who hide behind the couch during a thunderstorm. Each dog is different and every single dog you bring into your home can be dangerous. We actually had a Comcast guy call the police once because of our doberman. The moron actually tried to go into the backyard without our permission and she tried to tackle him. The police officer was nice enough to tell the Comcast man to always knock on our door first and shook our hands and said, hey, awesome dog.

No, I do not have any small children at home. No, I do not have any grandchildren either. It’s just me and the hubby. No feel-good mushy story here. I try to be more practical than that.


71 posted on 09/08/2015 8:31:24 AM PDT by bearkat
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

bulldogs were created and bread to attack.

By design they were created to attack the throat.


72 posted on 09/08/2015 8:31:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: zek157

My lab puppy is exhibiting her instinctual behavior. She field-prances in the yard (jumping up on back legs to look), field pounces on anything suspect, tracks birds and chases them and loves swimming and will get apoplectic at splashing water (fish simulation cuz they fish too).

For the pitbull the instinctual behavior is biting, ripping and tearing flesh until the prey is dead.

These are the same type of idiots who want to have a mountain lion or tiger as a house cat.

The breed should be taxed out of existence such as a $10,000 dangerous breed tax. Of course the low lifes who own them won’t bother to pay but at least it gives a pretext for seizing the breed when it shows up in public which will have a virtuous effect.


73 posted on 09/08/2015 8:34:42 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

TPB

Most of them would never hurt a fly, but enough of them are killers that they kill as many people as every other breed combined.


74 posted on 09/08/2015 8:35:09 AM PDT by Right2BareArms
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To: jasbd1985

You over-simplify...

ANY dog breed (or mix) can be vicious and/or subject to random acts of violence. This is particularly true for those that we cannot enbackground of. But a brief, abridged list of factors that can result in dogs acting out violently:

- Breeding problems/genetics
- history of abuse
- has dog been socialized with people and other animals?
- nutrition/food deprivation
- health issues/pain
- other traumas

When you mix any of the above in with a dog that comes from a bloodline specifically bred to fight or to attack either other animals or humans... You have a revolver with at least one or two cartridges in the cylinder playing Russian Roulette.

There are some things that can be done to help mitigate the odds of a violent outburst (a proverbial unloading if a cartridge)... Careful, intentional socializing. Long-term controlled monitoring, Full health assessment (including X-rays to check for hidden injuries, authorities, and other possible sources of pain). Unfortunately, most shelters do not have the resources or man hours to effectively take the steps necessary to give the attention needed for safe adoption.

In the OP, the dog in question likely did pass an assessment. But the rapid changes in its life were too much. Further, we don’t know what other complicating factors came in... What were the conditions of the home, the behavior and actions of the teen attacked, and so much more.

The reality is- that dog may very well have been on”death row” for a reason...


75 posted on 09/08/2015 8:37:07 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Freepers like it simple


76 posted on 09/08/2015 8:39:10 AM PDT by wardaddy ("The Reset Will Not Be Televised".....Gil Scott Wardaddy)
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To: corkoman

I would never adopt a grown dog of many breeds. You just don’t know how they have been treated. For instance, I have had Danes for years. Sweetest, goofiest breed there is. However if they are not raised and disciplined around smaller animals, they may well kill them. I know two people that had this happen. Both dogs were fine with people.
Another dog problem is people putting their face in the dogs face or grabbing a dog they don’t know well. My granddaughter is six and has always been awful about this. We judge dogs on rather they have nipped Katie or not. I don’t see her much so I really can’t help. My Danes have never touched her. My Jack however has nipped her.


77 posted on 09/08/2015 8:39:40 AM PDT by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

How much you wanna bet that 16 year old girl tried to get down on the dogs level and tried hugging around his neck before she ever got to know him. Seems logical since she was attacked in the face and throat area.Most dog attacks are the results of ignorance by the owners.


78 posted on 09/08/2015 8:41:51 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: zek157

In fact, labradors are very similar to the bulldogs: `roach’ backs, powerful withers, rather short-legged, weight-forward: lean rear ends, powerful chests.

I had a liver color lab, a good boy, and now have an American bulldog, both about 90 pounds.
Any tough guys signaling harm to my dog, then coming on to my property will wish they had moved on.


79 posted on 09/08/2015 8:42:21 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Off Topic: Sweetest dog I ever had was an American Bulldog. Some people think they are pits but they're not. Pits are terriers. American Bulldogs are mastiffs.

Look at this:

These are not a pitbulls.

The left is a Standard type American Bulldog. The right is a Bully type American Bulldog.

80 posted on 09/08/2015 8:44:37 AM PDT by servo1969
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