Posted on 08/18/2015 9:55:28 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
O visa is a classification of non-immigrant temporary worker visa granted to an alien "who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics (O-1A visa), or who has a demonstrated record of extraordinary achievement in the motion picture or television industry and has been recognized nationally or internationally for those achievements," (O-1B visa) and to certain assistants (O-2 visa) and immediate family members of such aliens (O-3 visa).
The O-1A program is where you get your "best and brightest". H-1B is where you get cheap labor to displace American workers, particularly STEM graduates.
H-1B kill it.
Cruz is looking kind of stupid here.....
There is EVERYTHING wrong with that you out of touch buffoon.
Cruz is an H-1B pimp.
Trump is so smart. He is amazing.
He now has Grassley on his side and Sessions. These two senators have been sidelined as irrelevant. Trump comes in and can give them center stage again and possibly total success. To a politician that is irresistible.
It gives Trump a lot of creds.
This man knows what he is doing and doing it unlike anyone else.
> “The level of legal ....not to mention illegal immigration were allowing is killing the fabric of our nation very quickly”
TRUE. But the matter of top notch scientists is an exception.
> “A volume of immigration not seen this side of conquest...No culture borders language entity can tolerate this”
I know that.
> “Just look around you”
I have. I see what you see but I see more. And I am trying to relay to you a perspective that you are lacking because true scientific talent is something you haven’t seen. When you see it you will make exceptions. Everything else you observe is true.
> “I travel the U.S. a lot”
So do I and I’ve traveled the world a lot not as a tourist but as an academic and trade rep.
> “Both coasts and most cities are already a polyglot of non assimilated foreigners from Seattle to Dallas to Atlanta”
Yep. It’s a big problem.
> “The America of my youth....familiar and relatively assimilated homogeneous is gone”
No. It’s still there but needs to be brought out, supported and maintained.
>Go to Vegas or Orlando or New York or the peninsula below the Bay Area .....It’s a foreign country”
Yes, it’s awful. Something needs to be done. On top of that there are Muslim Jihadis being strategically settled in remote communities around the USA.
Have you ever heard of the Bahgwan Rajneesh?
http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh
Look, what I am trying to tell you is don’t allow yourself to join the crowd that reacts emotionally and ends up throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Your attitude needs to be wiser which is difficult because you haven’t seen the really top level scientific talent because they are not public like superstar athletes. If you had some awareness that exceptional brain talent exists and is a part of each crop of new humans, then you know the importance of picking the best of that crop and taking it to its natural ‘market’. Top American born scientists are afraid of the ‘lynch mob’ attitude of some conservatives but they also are aware there is a problem with abuse in immigration. They are insulated in their own world and they welcome peers that help push the envelope whether those peers come from Ireland or Bangladesh, doesn’t matter.
An example criteria to use for selecting H1B applicants for review would be to scout for individuals who were recognized child prodigies, adults recognized for making or capable of making exceptional contributions to science and engineering, promoted and recommended by members of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, individuals who are authors of citation classics, authors of hot papers, the top 250 most cited authors, authors of highly cited patents, scientists who have played key roles in launching technology firms.
And there are more than 325,000 of them, much more.
The rank and file American has nothing to be ashamed of. Those with an honest job should be proud of themselves. Not everybody is an Einstein (who was actually a bit of bumbling fool with an eye for the ladies). But America has produced many of its own science superstars (many!) but they’ve also brought in superstar foreigners who have helped make this country the top in science and technology. There’s a huge list of such people.
Here’s a way to be if you get an opportunity to talk with Ted as he campaigns around the country:
Senator Cruz, I am really concerned about your proposing to raise the caps on H1Bs from 65,000 to 325,000. I understand from communicating with other Americans over the internet that we need top scientific talent to join our own at home but I’m afraid all I see are great abuses where Americans are losing jobs for cheap labor. How would you guarantee that more of that doesn’t happen if the H1B caps are raised?
Then give him a copy of the Rajneesh article linked above and tell him that is now happening all over the country by the millions.
Good then, you guys are the perfect bunch to write up new policy for H-1B visas if Ted Cruz asks for it.
Congratulations on the new job gentlemen.
There is no confusion. O-1s are mnstly for artists, musicians and less often for scientists.
The H1B is mainly for student graduates, post-docs who have shown great promise. Most of them do not have a long CV of accomplishments because they are just starting out. But their professors know they have great potential. They are not the IT worker variety.
Senator Cruz as a member of the Science and Space Subcommittee has stated that we educate more than 300,000 STEM foreigners each year and then send them home. Many of them should be retained because they are exceptional but an O-1 is out of the question because they are young.
For example, stars of the Russian Mathematical Olympiads or top finishers of the prestigious International Mathematical Olympiads cannot get an O-1 visa because the process requires so much documentation, a good lawyer and a long list of accomplishments as evidence. But they can certainly be selected either for a student visa or an H1B if they did well in their studies and have the right recommendations.
Here’s a real person example:
http://www.mit.edu/~alexrem/Math%20Competitions.html
“The International Mathematical Olympiad is the most prestigious mathematics competition for high school students around the world. Participating in this contest is a wonderful experience, and I was lucky enough to participate in this competition twice as a student. I would like to thank everyone who helped in training me during my school years.”
Remorov would never have received an O-1.
Your admonition is short-sighted and too harsh. Your view translated into policy would deprive America of top talent.
I’ve already posted numerous times that American born talent should be complemented with exceptional foreign-born talent.
Do you think people such as Remorov at MIT should be denied and sent home?
http://www.mit.edu/~alexrem/Math%20Competitions.html
He’s training our youth!
Do you think General George Washington should have told the Prussian military trainers to stay away from Valley Forge? Although it’s a military example, it’s an early example of how we used foreigners to supplement and help train our people. Using Remorov above is only different in that it is a university setting but the principle is the same.
The point is we will take the best, the exceptional and use them for making our society better. We should not be interested in allowing the Cheap Labor Express to abuse the system for their bottomline, and worse by instituting harsh policies that deny us exceptional talent.
Go Trump go! Hopefully anti American butt wipes will get their tails handed to them in '16.
Cruz and Trump agree on bringing in the talent:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3326408/posts?page=22#22
Have a nice nauseous pukefested afternoon episode on me! For free!
The only thing i hate worse than this most abused of all corporate welfare programs is the people that still defend it. So have nice day selling out your fellow Americans.
It’s not the H1B, it’s the ABUSE of the H1B that you should focus on.
You will attract a lot more people to conservative thinking if you smarten yourself up a bit.
You are an anti American traitor. So live with it. Better yet, crawl back under the rock from whence where you came.
Give it up already. You’re gone off your meds and appear as a raving lunatic.
When Trump/Cruz 2016 get in the White House it will be the start of a completely different tone.
No.....way......
Yes....way....
Nice post
That took a lot of polite effort and I appreciate it
I will enlighten myself further
Nice post
That took a lot of polite effort and I appreciate it
I will enlighten myself further
Except for the following from
http://cis.org/more-us-stem-grads-than-jobs
Are there indications in the wage patterns of a real shortage of IT workers?
As Costa indicated in the previously cited article, "average wages in the computer and mathematical occupations for workers with at least a bachelor's degree" barely moved from 2000 to 2011 when studied in 2012 dollars (i.e., in constant dollars). Using Current Population Survey data he found that average hourly wages had moved from $37.27 in 2000 to $39.24 in 2011, an average annual increase of about 18 cents an hour."
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