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TRUMP EFFECT: IS ERICK ERICKSON THROWING DOWN GAUNTLET TO RUSH LIMBAUGH?
Breitbart ^ | 8-12-2017 | Edmund Wright

Posted on 08/14/2015 5:39:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright

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To: CAluvdubya
I'm curious as to why you think this is? Cruz has just not caught on.

Instincts guided by experience and a thorough and deep understanding of each man's ideology, philosophy and reflexes - and a smidgeon of inside info on the show prep process and players. I've zero doubt about this...NONE. Slam dunk.

As to catching on? Dude, it's early. Way early. And he's caught on more this week than last...and I have a bit of inside peek into his long term strategy as well.

81 posted on 08/14/2015 6:49:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I didn't pay attention until '80, that was my first vote, and one of the two I'm fully proud to have made.

This Trump phenomenon is so different than anything we've seen, I'm sticking with my 50/50. His debate performance was atrocious, and he rose in the polls. I've heard his speech given most recently in Michigan, he's really good and personable on the stump, and what he said was all spot on. He's formidable, he's the most media savvy, and the entire country wants someone tough as a counter to the overwhelmingly wussified progressive message, and that's his personna.

50/50

:-)

82 posted on 08/14/2015 6:50:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“...how will this play out if Trump goes liberal on some key issue at a key moment...”

Or, in other words, for some bizarre reason, Trump chooses to abandon the policies that put him in the lead in the polls. Normally, that is what conservatives do.


83 posted on 08/14/2015 6:50:54 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Thank God. You put your finger on what I've been arguing for three weeks.

THE MOST conservative value is that "we the people" get to choose our leaders, whether or not they fit a litmus test. We get to choose boorish, thuggish people like Andrew Jackson, we get to choose people with very little national experience like Abraham Lincoln---a couple of congressional terms. We get to choose pompous, bombastic, egotistic bullies . . . like Theodore Roosevelt. We get to choose people with NO political experience at all, like Ike; and we get to choose an actor who signed a bill legalizing abortion in his state, Reagan.

It is utterly essential that once a generation the people rise up and say, No more! WE get to choose, not you elites." And that is precisely the Trump effect I've been seeing.

It is not an affirmation of "traditional" conservatism and beating us over the head with what values this or that candidate "should" hold just ain't gonna cut it.

This is an affirmation of THE conservative value that We the People ultimately get to choose our leaders.

84 posted on 08/14/2015 6:51:04 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SE Mom
I don’t think at this point Trump has given it any thought- he’s a pragmatic guy. I could be mistaken, but I think he sees this as another project- I’m not convinced he understands the way our government is designed to work.

Your local lending library should have his most recent books available. He has committed some of his thoughts regarding government to paper. Entertaining and informative books.

(Disclaimer: R2z financially supports Cruz 100% but is not against Trump because DT is deflecting much flak of the mindless press and GOPe off Ted Cruz and is running first and fast downfield as a highly-effective blocker.)
85 posted on 08/14/2015 6:51:58 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: LS
I agree he's been defying gravity more and longer than many predicted...but I always understood that what Fox and Wall St Journal and Jeb thought would hurt Trump would help him. So I knew they were wrong. You are making a grave mistake to lump all "anti Trumpsters' into the same camp. You can't tell me Beck is in the Fox WSJ Jeb camp, for example.

.....and this is like air traffic control.....an insurgent candidacy must defy gravity 100% of the time. One slip and it's normally over. And by slip, I mean a slip that gets traction. I think he's made about 3 of those so far, and at some point, one will get traction IMO.

86 posted on 08/14/2015 6:53:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The menstruation accusation was a false accusation. It was never said by Trump, in listening to the interview there’s no indication of it being hinted at, and that makes it a case in which Erickson literally put words in Trump’s mouth that Trump did not say. A fabrication.

FWIW, Erickson runs his website with a very heavy hand that brooks no dissent and tolerates no criticism.

As to your article, CEW, it was extremely well written. Don’t think I’m criticizing it. I’m not. I also think it asks a relevant question.

My point is that middleweights should think twice about taking on heavyweights, and especially if they’re not even one of the better middleweights.


87 posted on 08/14/2015 6:53:06 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"Can you imagine Reagan fencing a company in by the jack booted force of gummint? And yet, Trump is all about that while citing Reagan. SHEESH."

You do remember that Reagan preferred the slogan “Fair Trade” over “Free Trade.”

And it was Reagan who saved Harley-Davidson by imposing tariffs on Japanese motorcycles - because they were “unfairly being dumped” on the US market.

88 posted on 08/14/2015 6:53:36 AM PDT by drpix
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Don Trump, like Sarah Palin before him, is a winnowing fork.


89 posted on 08/14/2015 6:53:47 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
No, the irony is that (and people STILL don't get this), that every time someone does something stupid like this it gives Trump more advertising on their station/blog/newspaper, and more Twitter ammo, and it continually feeds his free advertising machine that is like nothing in history.

Come on---here is the richest candidate BY FAR in the race and he has to spend virtually zero on advertising because of garbage like this. If I was a Trump opponent, "blood would be coming out of my eyes" over Erickson because he is just feeding Trump's strength. Course, I personally love it.

90 posted on 08/14/2015 6:54:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: odawg

I don’t think he will abandon his conservative positions....I just maintain that the man still has many reflexive big government liberal tendencies, and at some point, that will become unavoidable.

I think he’s set on the border, on the GOP elites, and on the proper tone to take into battle.


91 posted on 08/14/2015 6:55:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: jettester

Or both. Those qualities hold hands quite frequently.


92 posted on 08/14/2015 6:55:20 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Erick Erickson finally gets religion. Good for him.

It’s a TOS violation on Redstate to support any but Republican candidates. If Trump should (God forbid) get the nomination, it’s going to be interesting over there.


93 posted on 08/14/2015 6:56:13 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No social transformation without representation." - Justice Antonin Scalia)
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To: drpix

You didn’t address fencing Ford in at all?

Trump and Reagan are not sympatico on trade. That doesn’t mean they won’t reach a same conclusion every now and again, but in theory, they’re very different.


94 posted on 08/14/2015 6:56:57 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: bankwalker
Don Trump, like Sarah Palin before him, is a winnowing fork.

I've noticed that is true here on FR as well.
95 posted on 08/14/2015 6:56:59 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: LS

I don’t know why you think I disagree with anything in post 90?


96 posted on 08/14/2015 6:57:53 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The menstruation accusation was a false accusation. It was never said by Trump, in listening to the interview there's no indication of it being hinted at, and that makes it a case in which Erickson literally put words in Trump's mouth that Trump did not say. A fabrication.

FWIW, Erickson runs his website with a very heavy hand that brooks no dissent and tolerates no criticism.

As to your article, CEW, it was extremely well written. Don't think I'm criticizing it. I'm not.

Just for some context, Erickson isn't even among the top 30 names:


97 posted on 08/14/2015 6:58:59 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Resettozero

He’s getting many players to reveal themselves, very quickly, for better or for worse.


98 posted on 08/14/2015 6:59:22 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Lakeshark
Here's the thing about your comment. Let's assume for a moment Trump not only wins the nomination but wins the election. Besides Dem/libs (of course), who will be his biggest enemies in DC? It will be the RINO GOPe establishment---not because they don't share a lot of his values, but because he dared to win an election without kissing their ring.

Therefore, we should ask, who stands to have the MOST power with Trump? Those who support him and move toward him and help shape his policies---the old LBJ "inside the tent pissing out" thing. This is why I think Cruz and Carson in particular have pretty much eliminated any criticism of Trump and why they stand to have a great deal of power if Trump wins.

It is a once in a lifetime chance for conservatives to make sure that on the issues where Trump IS conservative or shares our values, we push THOSE to the fore and push the others off the burners altogether.

I think of what Schwartzenegger might have done in CA had he had any conservatives at all to work with. He didn't do much other than a pension "reform," and CA went much further left. That's the danger. If conservatives turn on Trump and ally with the GOPe, they will not only make sure nothing gets done, but hand the gubment right back to the Dems 4-8 years later.

99 posted on 08/14/2015 6:59:56 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’m not sure you do. I just posted a response to an earlier comment.


100 posted on 08/14/2015 7:02:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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