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Donald Trump’s Plan for Your Taxes Might Be EXACTLY What He Needs to Win the White House
Conservative Tribune ^ | 5AUG2015 | Staff Writer

Posted on 08/10/2015 7:13:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

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To: DoodleDawg

What happened to the tax revenues the Feds received when Reagan overhauled the tax structure a bit?


101 posted on 08/10/2015 10:43:06 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
What happened to the tax revenues the Feds received when Reagan overhauled the tax structure a bit?

This is not overhauling the tax structure "a bit". This is completely eliminating all business taxes, all capital gains taxes, all inheritance taxes, and slashing personal income tax drastically. Way beyond anything Reagan suggested.

And also what happened to the deficit during Reagan's years?

102 posted on 08/10/2015 10:46:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Revenues went up because taxes went down much to the chagrin of the Dems who insisted that tax revenues would drop.

The deficit ballooned because Reagan was unable to get spending under control because the Dems didn’t want it.

You significantly reduce taxes like Trump is suggesting and you’ll see an explosion of business increase and the amount of revenues increase into government coffers.


103 posted on 08/10/2015 10:50:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
Existing in a nursing home with minimal care and less than minimal love from family is not the way to spend your last years! They are supposed to be ‘golden’ years.

The secular humanist liberals thought of that too. That's why there is state-sanctioned doctor-assisted suicide, even for nominally healthy people.

104 posted on 08/10/2015 10:59:06 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Revenues went up because taxes went down much to the chagrin of the Dems who insisted that tax revenues would drop.

As I pointed out, Reagan did not eliminate capital gains taxes, all business taxes, inheritance taxes, and the bulk of the personal income taxes. Had he done that then revenue would not have gone up. Without out that there is no way private industry can create enough jobs to make up the difference.

The deficit ballooned because Reagan was unable to get spending under control because the Dems didn’t want it.

He didn't really try very hard.

You significantly reduce taxes like Trump is suggesting and you’ll see an explosion of business increase and the amount of revenues increase into government coffers.

Nonsense. States like Louisiana and Kansas have taken similar steps in eliminating taxes recently and are having problems cutting spending fast enough to keep up with the losses in revenue. So if Trump does that on a national scale then what would he cut to keep the deficit from exploding?

105 posted on 08/10/2015 11:03:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Modified ‘Fair Tax’ (*NO* exemptions) - it’s the ONLY Constitutional method. I could care less if it’s ‘revenue neutral’ or not; Fedzilla gets and WASTES more than it knows what to do with, even if they are within the bonds of the Constitution. Bring back Freedom, Liberty and, most of all, CHOICE!

Just because you don’t make $X+, or are no longer in the work force, does NOT mean you don’t utilize govt services (prob. the reverse). Let’s go back to re-use, trade/barter. The LESS govt in our lives, the BETTER.

Anyone with a better idea that doesn’t break the 4th, 5th and 13th (like the current income tax or the vaunted ‘Flat Tax’), I’m all ears.


106 posted on 08/10/2015 11:18:06 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Trump’s plan is liberal, progressive taxation. A conservative tax is a flat tax, no two ways about it.


107 posted on 08/10/2015 11:21:22 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: DoodleDawg

You reduce the size of government and its spending and you will see private industry and individuals be able afford government once again.

The problem is spending. We are spending WAY too much for government. We need to get government back to its core mission of what it does best and get rid of the rest.

Total taxes collected that are more than 20% of what the total money made in America/by Americans should be considered criminal.

Economists recognize that 19 to 20 percent is the sweet spot. Go back to the Torah and you’ll see that when Joseph became the viceroy of ancient Egypt he reduced taxes to 20 percent. This led to a seven year explosion in the economic vitality and taxes collected by the Egyptian government until the drought hit.


108 posted on 08/10/2015 11:25:44 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And by what authority does the Fed, let alone the State, get to OWN a Citizen for 10%?

No matter the %, an income tax is *still* a SLAVERY TAX, by degrees.

1st point of order - restore the Constitution.
2nd point of order - divy, by State (by population??) for their % of the LAWFUL govt obligation.

THEN, and only then, would I be for States to withhold their obligation (in escrow) for any 9th/10th hanky-panky


109 posted on 08/10/2015 11:26:43 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

I would rather have a 10% federal tax on everyone and all corporations. Then another 10% max by the States.

If our elected and un-elected government officials can’t live within that means they either need to be in the private sector or in jail.


110 posted on 08/10/2015 11:28:29 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: i_robot73

How about if we pay our all of our taxes indirectly to the District of Criminals via the state treasuries?


111 posted on 08/10/2015 11:30:48 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
You reduce the size of government and its spending and you will see private industry and individuals be able afford government once again.

Yeah, but since Trump has already said he's going to keep Social Security and Medicare at their same levels, has said he will be increasing spending on the military and veterans, and can't do much about money spent paying on the debt, then what can he do to balance things? Bearing in mind we're still running deficits in the half-trillion dollar range with the current revenue stream; how will be be able to cut enough with that revenue stream is reduced?

Economists recognize that 19 to 20 percent is the sweet spot. Go back to the Torah and you’ll see that when Joseph became the viceroy of ancient Egypt he reduced taxes to 20 percent.

Joseph wasn't spending $600 billion on Defense and well over a trillion on Social Security. And Trump is talking a lot lower than 20%

112 posted on 08/10/2015 11:41:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

When you can print funny $ out of thin air, what matters that taxes are collected (except to keep the amount of funny $ bills out of circulation).

Now, if we were talking about a Constitutional Republic being mandated to utilize silver and gold as the ONLY means...


113 posted on 08/10/2015 11:41:49 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: DoodleDawg

Then we’re screwed.


114 posted on 08/10/2015 11:43:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: AustinBill

Fixed it for you:

intended purpose of revenue generation for lawful/Constitutional obligations


115 posted on 08/10/2015 11:44:30 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Then we’re screwed.

No matter who gets elected. It's just a question of degree.

116 posted on 08/10/2015 11:44:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m all for ‘structured payments’: people -> biz/services -> State -> Fed.

Fed should ALWAYS be the LAST in line...not the 1st like today

Still, no matter the %, an income tax is *still* a SLAVERY TAX, by whatever degree you pay...completely anti-thesis to a Free people.


117 posted on 08/10/2015 11:49:23 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

I agree we should get rid of the income tax and the 16th Amendment.


118 posted on 08/10/2015 12:04:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: i_robot73

I tend to say that anything above 20% is a slavery tax no matter how you tax it - directly or indirectly.


119 posted on 08/10/2015 12:05:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
someone needs to drop him a line and let him know the numbers don't add up.

if you do the math, and i did, his plan will net about $500b in tax revenue.

this is far short of the $3+ trillion in tax revenue the US raises annually now (and spends about $4.5 trillion)

120 posted on 08/14/2015 6:40:43 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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