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Obama collecting personal data for a secret race database
The New York Post ^ | July 18, 2015 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 07/19/2015 7:11:01 AM PDT by yoe

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While disturbing, I wonder if Obama realizes that it will be hard to control access to the database by Congress, and that analysis of such data may reveal some truths that he would rather not have known.

I have worked in the credit industry, for major credit bureaus and analytics consulting firms. They all gathered information used in evaluating credit risk - the kinds of information which allowed you to decide which credit risks to accept and which to decline. Race was not a factor, and lenders went to very great lengths not to gather race or even race proxy data. Insurers behave likewise. All of the analytics crew had hunches that black were very much higher credit risk across all income levels, but we had no way to prove it, and it could not be discussed within any of the corporations due to the fear that there would be claims of racial discrimination.

I lived in Atlanta for some years and routinely saw outrageously bad and risky driving behavior by black drivers. This was an anecdotal observation, but insurance underwriters, prohibited from collecting race data or rating insurance based on race, probably thought about the same question.

Now that Obama wants to assemble the data, we may have the ability to answer these questions without running afoul of antidiscrimination laws. If that dataset is then placed in the public domain, you would then be able to answer questions about black drivers and the loss exposure they represent relative to non-black drivers. And credit scores could be compared by race, holding income and other attributes constant.

I understand what they think they are doing, but there could be incredible and unanticipated backlash once people have the chance to understand how much subsidy there is between the races. For example what if loss ratios for black drivers of a certain category (females, 21-34, for example) were, say 59X that of non blacks of the same gender and age parameters. Since present law prohibits discrimination in insurance rates by race, those differences are homogenized into rates, causing non-black drivers in that segment to subsidize black drivers in that segment.

I would urge the GOP to investigate the collection of this data so they know exactly what it is and can subpoena copies of the data (and publish it into the public domain) for independent analysis.


41 posted on 07/19/2015 9:04:49 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Truth29
This is a total surveillance society and a government that believes that the citizenry is just property to be molded, directed and disposed of as the government sees fit.

That "disposal" can work both ways. Is it 1776 yet?

42 posted on 07/19/2015 9:06:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Listening carefully to Maxine Waters ... That’s a tough assignment.


43 posted on 07/19/2015 9:08:13 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: yoe

Google and Facebook are already doing this, all the Obama and the Government have to do is tap into it.

I just heard today the Google has a patent pending on a deal that lets them tap into your credit card and banking information so that they can target ads to your devices, Mobile ones at that, to determine products that you can afford to buy. Where in the Hell are the Privacy concerns there????????????


44 posted on 07/19/2015 9:11:12 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: BillyBonebrake
Listening carefully to Maxine Waters

Apparently old Maxine spews everything she knows. More accurate than the FBI or the DHS.

45 posted on 07/19/2015 12:42:14 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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I am going to have to do a google news search every day for Maxine Waters to find out what is going to happen.

Far be it for the “journalist” to do that for me.


46 posted on 07/19/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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