Posted on 07/07/2015 1:42:23 PM PDT by xzins
The weather reports we each hear everyday no matter where we are based on 3 models. They run each model several times to see which one has a higher percentage of occurrence. in other words each model will be somewhere between 33%-35% chance of occurrence. The model that consistently predicts the highest is the one they go with. So they are right basically 1/3 of the time.
At least that’s what I remember hearing...
Do you think it is dishonest to challenge Obama’s statement that climate change is the number one problem for the future?
You neglected to mention that they can’t even measure the temperature the way they claim. People no longer think or they would not accept the absurd claim that the average temperature of the entire Earth can be measured to an accuracy of two places to the right of the decimal. It is insanity. The whole farce is amazing, they even show pictures of glaciers “calving” as if it proves that the glaciers are melting. Glaciers break off into icebergs when an EXPANDING glacier reaches the sea and projects out into the water. If I had to bet I would bet on a new ice age, not the warming these clowns predict. The tiny, tiny viewership of MSNBC is composed almost entirely of those who swallow the global warming myth. That is all you need to know about their state of mind.
OR... does Global Warming CAUSE RACISM?????
See there?! See what I did there!
;-)
It really is amazing, weather forecasts now seem to be less accurate than they were fifty years ago, I know of no reason other than hysteria why that would be the case. We certainly should have much better technology for making forecasts than was available in 1965.
Bttt.
This is a classic example of what used to be called "appeal to authority." It was the mode of thinking that characterized the pre-Renaissance European, who had no idea what the scientific method would evolve to mean, and which relied on mindlessly parroting whatever "authority" figure was currently in power.
It had been relegated to the attic for several centuries, until the left wingers hauled it out to support their fraudulent alarmist views about "global warming."
There were 65 attendees and only 30 signed.
“Deniers” in their midst – All is not well in Nobel Prize Land
Anthony Watts / 4 hours ago July 7, 2015
A couple of days ago we reported on the Mainau Nobel Conference, on Friday, 3 July, over 30 Nobel laureates assembled on Mainau Island on Lake Constance signed a declaration on climate change. Problem was, there were 65 attendees, and only 30 signed the declaration. As is typical of the supression of the alternate views on climate, we never heard the opinion of the 35 who were in the majority. Today, one of the nobel laureates who was an attendee has spoken out.
From Climate Depot: Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Who Endorsed Obama Now Says Prez. is ‘Ridiculous’ & ‘Dead Wrong’ on ‘Global Warming’
Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Dr. Ivar Giaever: ‘Global warming is a non-problem’ ‘I say this to Obama: Excuse me, Mr. President, but you’re wrong. Dead wrong.’
Dr. Ivar Giaever, a Nobel Prize-Winner for physics in 1973, declared his dissent on man-made global warming claims at a Nobel forum on July 1, 2015.
“I would say that basically global warming is a non-problem,” Dr. Giaever announced during his speech titled “Global Warming Revisited.”
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Giaever, a former professor at the School of Engineering and School of Science Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, received the 1973 physics Nobel for his work on quantum tunneling. Giaever delivered his remarks at the 65th Nobel Laureate Conference in Lindau, Germany, which drew 65 recipients of the prize. Giaever is also featured in the new documentary “Climate Hustle”, set for release in Fall 2015.
Giaever was one of President Obama’s key scientific supporters in 2008 when he joined over 70 Nobel Science Laureates in endorsing Obama in an October 29, 2008 open letter. Giaever signed his name to the letter which read in part: “The country urgently needs a visionary leader…We are convinced that Senator Barack Obama is such a leader, and we urge you to join us in supporting him.”
But seven years after signing the letter, Giaever now mocks President Obama for warning that “no challenge poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change”. Giaever called it a “ridiculous statement.”
“That is what he said. That is a ridiculous statement,” Giaever explained.
“I say this to Obama: Excuse me, Mr. President, but you’re wrong. Dead wrong,” Giaever said. (Watch Giaever’s full 30-minute July 1 speech here.)
“How can he say that? I think Obama is a clever person, but he gets bad advice. Global warming is all wet,” he added.
“Obama said last year that 2014 is hottest year ever. But it’s not true. It’s not the hottest,” Giaever noted. [Note: Other scientists have reversed themselves on climate change. See: Politically Left Scientist Dissents – Calls President Obama ‘delusional’ on global warming]
The Nobel physicist questioned the basis for rising carbon dioxide fears.
“When you have a theory and the theory does not agree with the experiment then you have to cut out the theory. You were wrong with the theory,” Giaever explained.
Global Warming ‘a new religion’
Giaever said his climate research was eye opening. “I was horrified by what I found” after researching the issue in 2012, he noted.
“Global warming really has become a new religion. Because you cannot discuss it. It’s not proper. It is like the Catholic Church.”
Concern Over ‘Successful’ UN Climate Treaty
“I am worried very much about the [UN] conference in Paris in November. I really worry about that. Because the [2009 UN] conference was in Copenhagen and that almost became a disaster but nothing got decided. But now I think that the people who are alarmist are in a very strong position,” Giaever said.
“The facts are that in the last 100 years we have measured the temperatures it has gone up .8 degrees and everything in the world has gotten better. So how can they say it’s going to get worse when we have the evidence? We live longer, better health, and better everything. But if it goes up another .8 degrees we are going to die I guess,” he noted.
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Silencing Debate
Giaever accused Nature Magazine of “wanting to cash in on the [climate] fad.”
“My friends said I should not make fun of Nature because then they won’t publish my papers,” he explained.
“No one mentions how important CO2 is for plant growth. It’s a wonderful thing. Plants are really starving. They don’t talk about how good it is for agriculture that CO2 is increasing,” he added.
Extreme Weather claims
“The other thing that amazes me is that when you talk about climate change it is always going to be the worst. It’s got to be better someplace for heaven’s sake. It can’t always be to the worse,” he said.
“Then comes the clincher. If climate change does not scare people we can scare people talking about the extreme weather,” Giaever said.
“For the last hundred years, the ocean has risen 20 cm — but for the previous hundred years the ocean also has risen 20 cm and for the last 300 years, the ocean has also risen 20 cm per 100 years. So there is no unusual rise in sea level. And to be sure you understand that I will repeat it. There is no unusual rise in sea level,” Giaever said.
“If anything we have entered period of low hurricanes. These are the facts,” he continued.
“You don’t’ have to even be a scientist to look at these figures and you understand what it says,” he added.
“Same thing is for tornadoes. We are in a low period on in U.S.”
Error in 36 signatories. As posted here on a previous FR thread and from the web site "Watts Up With That" (WUWT), there were actually 65 Nobel Laureates at the Mainau Nobel Conference at Lake Constance in Switzerland on the July 3rd Weekend. Only 30 of the 65 signed the document or 46%. Yes, Dr. Ivar Giaever, a joint Nobel Prize-Winner for physics in 1973, was the apparent sole vocal dissenter, still the fact that a majority did not sign is significant.
Also significant is that Dr. Giaever [US Citizen born in Norway] was a supporter of President-elect Obama in 2008 but has soured upon both his support and the concept of 'Global [whatever]' since then, now referring to the 'Global [whatever]' as more religion than science. He even resigned from the American Physical Society in 2011 because of the APS adopting a rather doctrinaire position on the issue.
And as has been pointed out, many of those co-signers were not qualified, especially the man from AEI.
You could also use the American Physical Society as an example. The vast majority of members subscribe to the global warming science, but not 100% of them. But because the vast majority does agree, the Society took the official position of agreeing with the science of global warming. Giaever's resignation from APS doesn't change the facts of APS official position.
It’s also not accurate. See post #48
Well he IS an American Citizen (resident 1958, Citizen since 1964) and did the work leading to his share of the 1973 Physics Nobel Prize while working for General Electric in the 1960s. As for age 86, I fully agree!
Not what I'm saying at all. The APS has no credibility for me, not when its members get gov't cash to approve AGW.
Obama has a Nobel prize, too. Gee, who do we believe.
Gaiever was the only nobel winner in a science field who didn't sign. Those who won their nobel prize in a field other than science didn't sign because they have no qualification to sign.
All the articles from watts, Newsmax, Townhall, Briebart, Wash Times leave that fact out
Not sure.
So does Al Gore want him jailed?
From your website: “Nobel Laureates
65 Nobel Laureates participate in the 65th Lindau Meeting...”
The remainder of the attendees won their Nobel in a field other than science and didn't sign because they had no qualification sign.
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