Posted on 07/01/2015 3:56:31 PM PDT by betty boop
An interesting vanity essay on an Amendments Convention. Worth reading.
Very good, Betty Boop!
Before changing the Constitution ENFORCE it.
who is ‘we’? You mean “we the people” that elected Obama, Clinton and the RINOs? “we the people” elected Presidents that chose all these Supreme Court justices. “we the people” elected a Republican congress that allowed Obama to do whatever he wanted.
“Before changing the Constitution ENFORCE it”
Perhaps we need to change it IN ORDER to enforce it.
The "we" of Obergefell are 14th Amendment corporate representatives, officers and paper corporations which have no rights, only privileges, and therefore are not the vast majority of Americans.
Well OK then.
YES!!!!!!!
How would you suggest we do that? Elect more RINOs?
WHAT IF!.... the people(generally) have become corrupt in some ways and in various degrees...
AND....... they have exactly a federal givernment they want, need, desire, and it matches them exactly.. (GENERALLY)..
Only an ultra-optimist would not believe this..
People can change for the better in mass.. also; people can change for the worse in mass..
People that refuse to rise up against EVIL in some way.. are enablers of Evil.. and ARE in fact.. Evil..
One thing overlooked by you above as almost all debaters do...
IS...... voter fraud.. not just normal voter fraud thats always present.. BUT large scale organized well thought out connected grass roots massive voter fraud.. not addressed by any authority or even the republican that being effected COMPLETELY..
Voter fraud so deeply ensconced some districts had 150% of the voters vote in 2012 and probably well before that.. some places more than 150%..
AND thats the places even checked/caught.. with little or NO outrage..
Seems NOBODY wants to think out it.... I could be WRONG, and hope I am to some degree..
But alas; as the bible foretells, (some say).. THIS MUST HAPPEN..
Really though... As a fruit rots (on the ground) it fertilizes a new TREE..
I love Trees.. a new one would be Cool..
Bonus: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iu92zs5gg2bwuy3/FIRE.avi?dl=0
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Interposition.
who is ‘we’? You mean “we the people” that elected Obama, Clinton and the RINOs? “we the people” elected Presidents that chose all these Supreme Court justices. “we the people” elected a Republican congress that allowed Obama to do whatever he wanted.Not to mention: "We the people" elected GW Bush TWICE that gave us John Roberts. (who then gave it to us TWICE and I'll bet he's not finished)
I understand the intention to strengthen constitutional protection of state’s rights and limit federal abuses of power.
However, knowing how untrustworthy and compromised nearly all legislators are, we would be better advised to not open up the Article V Pandora ‘ s box.
I have the strongest hunch that it will ultimately be co-opted by the left, and render opposite of desired results.
Protests and non violent civil disobedience would likely scare politicians into better behavior.
When they feel the heat, they see the light.
Remember Clinton being chased by FREEPERS embarrassing the hell out of him?
Remember the Tea Party protests that gave us the 2010 victories?
We still have a voice. We must be organized, in great numbers, and Loud!
Art V is for purposes of proposing Amendments, ie changing the Constitution.
That could be the motto for the Convention. Right now, the Constitution is primarily enforced by the Supreme Court, secondarily by the Congress and the President. That's the problem. Enforcement of the Constitution is done at the federal level, so the Constitution is usually NOT enforced against federal power outside of violations of the Bill of Rights.
An amendment or amendments need to be adopted providing for a way to enforce the Constitution that does not rely on any of the federal branches of government.
NO. I don't mean any such reduced and corrupted idea of "we the people." You are talking about a "mob," not about citizens.
I was most definitely referring to the "We the People" of the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America, which they duly ratified, through their respective State conventions.
In short, I was referring to "We the People of the United States, [who] in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Methinks people on that track of understanding would never have voted for Obama in the first place.
Yeah. Dubya was the best we have had since Reagan and that isn’t saying much. In recent times dubya will be known as the high water mark unfortunately. It can always get worse and it will get worse. This is just the beginning now that the sharks smell all the blood.
Seems like an eminently good idea to me, Ray76. Unfortunately, it appears the constitutionally legitimate enforcers are totally asleep at the wheel.... They (evidently) have decided it's best to just "go along to get along."
It is sickening to me that our most direct representatives in the national government have made a habit of sacrificing the liberties of the very people who give them authority to act, so that they can continue to "get along."
Disgusting. Disgraceful.
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