Posted on 06/28/2015 2:26:44 AM PDT by No One Special
If the ruling causes more problems than it resolves, then the matter will have to be revisited. Hopefully that will be in a few years when the makeup of the court is different.
He court has reversed decisions in the past.
or, push the people to put an amendment in the constitution to address the issue.
>> I think creative lawyers have to push the envelope as far as possible
I agree — break it. SCOTUS has rendered marriage meaningless.
The amendment can be declared “unconstitutional.”
And pure water can be deemed not fit to drink either, but by that time the movement will have lost itself in the most basic nonsense possible.
I think the people deserve the opportunity to see what it means to “marry anything.”
Furthermore, I would happily walk away from my state recognized marriage given my Christian marriage remains intact.
It’s heads I win, tails you lose.
No it can’t. However, it’s a moot point since a considerable majority of the American people presently support SSM, and that majority will grow quickly now that it’s the law.
To pass and ratify an amendment requires something like 85% support from the people. We’ll be down around 25% soon.
The only way to reverse this quickly would be to stage a coup or revolution. But a coup to impose American values is an oxymoron.
As somebody once said, “The people have decided what they want, and they deserve to get it good and hard.”
Actual history has shown that the more conservative the regime, the better “gays” that managed to elude its penalties actually did in it.
The lid has come off of the evil silliness pot. One of my co-workers, a chap not even from the USA (contractor from India) put up a poster of the Joker (from Batman) in protest.
Like I said... this support is born 99% of ignorance.
The ignorance will not continue.
Anita Bryant was a better role model than the cow currently in the white house.
If Cruz were to win in 2016, I hope that he puts a good conservative in as Secretary of Education. If we can have two 2-term conservatives (Cruz and Walker, for example), its possible to save the country, but it will require working from the ground up. No more teaching about homosexuality in Kindergarten, for example.
Nope.
We can’t change the schools till we change the culture.
Culture is upstream of politics. The recent ruling is the working out in the legal system of what was portrayed as normal and desirable 15 or 20 years ago in pop culture.
So if you want to know where our politics will be in 15 or 20 years, look at pop culture today.
Recent polls indicate ~60% approval among Americans for gay marriage. Presumably they will all support this ruling.
Another 10% minimum don’t know or don’t care. This means at most 30% are strongly opposed.
How exactly, in a democratic society, does 30% of the population go about imposing its values on the rest? They don’t. The only way is to get them to change their minds back.
Which is not impossible, but will be very, very difficult. Conservatives have to date not had the stomach for the long, slow grind of influencing a culture over time. We’ve preferred the “quick fixes” of laws and referenda.
That worked well, didn’t it?
The words of a Constitutional amendment would have no value to this SCOTUS. None.
Look what they have done with the Constitution we now have.
After all, we've more important things to worry with. Like who'll win the NCAA football championship, the Super Bowl, and so forth. Bread and circuses.
I include myself in that group, BTW.
Conservatives, more or less by definition, have lives. Their purpose in being and sense of self-worth is not totally tied up in politics and changing everything around.
Liberals, for whom the personal is political, thus have an enormous innate advantage.
And we usually are busy working and raising a family. But we damn sure better MAKE time to tend to the politics. Because the ENEMY ain’t gonna leave us alone. They’re mean to eliminate our way of life.
"If"?
It is already here, and infecting our nation as I type this.
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