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Why the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage could lead to civil war
http://allenbwest.com ^ | June 26, 2015 | Allen B. West

Posted on 06/26/2015 9:31:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: Johnny Navarone
If Roe v. Wade didn’t lead to civil war or even civil strife, why would this?

In simple terms, allowing your neighbor to about their baby did not also kill your own child.

This ruling fundamentally alters the meaning of EVERYBODY's marriage, and by extension, the foundational principle of recorded civilization.

-PJ

101 posted on 06/26/2015 10:35:52 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
This ruling fundamentally alters the meaning of EVERYBODY's marriage, and by extension, the foundational principle of recorded civilization.

Do you really think that a significant number of the American people will be willing to fight a civil war, with all that entails, over this issue?

102 posted on 06/26/2015 10:44:09 AM PDT by Johnny Navarone
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To: greene66
Ultimately, the only route to survival is going to be secession.

If you're really talking "ultimately", the only route to survival is going to be the assiduous cultivation of the welfare of number 1. Disengage. The Republic no longer exists. It's every man, women, and family for themselves. If anyone thinks they can recover America from a melange of perversions, memes, financial corruption, busybodies, militaristic law enforcement, hollowed out manufacturing, open front running in the markets, and Presidential candidates out of an Our Gang comedy, I wish you good luck. I'm voting for Pete the dog.

I'm not wasting my last years worrying about it. For those of you with kids, cut the middle class upbringing and start teaching them how to function in a world controlled from the top down by psychopaths. They'll get eaten alive if you don't.

103 posted on 06/26/2015 10:50:05 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Perhaps that’s intended?


104 posted on 06/26/2015 10:53:23 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: central_va
This one will be fought at the fire team level.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

105 posted on 06/26/2015 10:54:03 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Johnny Navarone
Just wait... this issue is a sleeper. It will trigger other reaches.

Cakes and flowers are nothing. Businesses will be targeted. Churches will be targeted. Wait for the reaction from black Baptists and Hispanic Christians. Wait for the Muslim exclusions. Wait for the demands that symbols of traditional Marriage be removed. Wait for the 2% to make extreme demands on the 98%.

Wait for this to percolate. People are still reeling from yesterday's ruling.

-PJ

106 posted on 06/26/2015 10:56:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.’

Perhaps, but would that be such a bad thing?

The liberal states are destroying themselves, most especially with these scotus “wins”.

Just because they won, it has not cured them of their self destruction, but in fact, it will only hasten their self destruction.

Conservative states just need to stand aside and let the lib states self destruct.


107 posted on 06/26/2015 10:56:48 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: Sherman Logan; Bluewater2015
Secession will not happen. If Civil War is in our future (I pray that it isn't.) it will be a true Civil War and not a war between the states.

I am afraid that if there is a second ACW it will more closely resemble the Spanish Civil War.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

108 posted on 06/26/2015 11:00:02 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Time will tell, of course. I just don’t see resistance to this happening beyond perhaps an annual protest in DC...if that.


109 posted on 06/26/2015 11:00:26 AM PDT by Johnny Navarone
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To: central_va
Can we start forming infantry regiments yet?

Question: Suppose you did form an infantry regiment in response to this court decision.

What would you do with it? Who would it attack?

110 posted on 06/26/2015 11:03:24 AM PDT by Johnny Navarone
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To: Dick Bachert
Assuming you are correct concerning CJ Roberts, would it not be in the liberals' interest to go ahead and out him so as to put in a liberal CJ prior to the 2016 election?

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

111 posted on 06/26/2015 11:04:47 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm

” If Civil War is in our future (I pray that it isn’t.)”


It’s not something anyone wants. But how do we free ourselves without it? We are bound to a government that despises us. We (in “flyoverland”)are becoming like Biafra, East Timor, Tibet or, heaven help us, Chechnya. We want to break free, but they won’t let us.


112 posted on 06/26/2015 11:05:43 AM PDT by Bluewater2015 (There are no coincidences)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Wait for the Muslim exclusions


“Muslim” is an operative word here. This makes us even more of a target for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.


113 posted on 06/26/2015 11:07:16 AM PDT by Bluewater2015 (There are no coincidences)
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To: Johnny Navarone

Each State with their own infantry regiments with direct control of the Governor could kick out all federal officials from their state. They could also put pressure on Federal Forts to not meddle. The ultimate nullification. Yes it has come to that.


114 posted on 06/26/2015 11:08:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: shankbear
It will be a new revolution against tyranny, not a civil war.

Indeed. Wrong terminology used here.

And this is, at root, NOT about the redefinition of marriage. It is about unconstitutional fascism foisted on us. If it were not about marriage, it would be something else.

115 posted on 06/26/2015 11:09:34 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Johnny Navarone

I don’t know, when you see JBT’s kicking in doors of churches and arresting pastors and members in defiance of the federal government that is not going to play well. So then they will of course resort to arresting and jailing Christians from their homes, again this won’t play well.

The question is do Christians accept the abuse and do the non-violence thing of do they eventually fight back and be declared terrorist by the state for defying the king? Either way this Pandora’s box is going to wreak hell on this country and amazing we did it to ourselves.


116 posted on 06/26/2015 11:11:21 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Johnny Navarone
The resistance may be targeted to the breakdown in the political government structure. People no longer feel represented. Gays represent only 2% of the population, but had the power to frighten country leaders into discarding thousands of years of social convention. The same happened when 2% of uninsured caused the other 98% to be thrown into turmoil. Illegal immigrants are getting more rights than citizens.

The war will be over a people whose representatives are ignoring them in favor some fleeting perceived minor political advantage.

This may just be the spark that lights the other combustibles that are piling up.

-PJ

117 posted on 06/26/2015 11:11:55 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: LonePalm

My guess is that the left likes having a CJ on the court over whom they have that much leverage so they can play the perception that he’s NOT one of their guys when, in fact, he is.

It was LBJ — crude bastard that he was — who often declared that if you “Get them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.”

Thus it seems to be so with Roberts.


118 posted on 06/26/2015 11:12:10 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: bgill

You’re making the assumption that blue states are ok with two separate ideologies existing together, which is wrong. It isn’t enough for a liberal to have a beliefs, they demand that you recognize and accept their beliefs, and then they demand that you celebrate and participate in their beliefs. All at the expense of your conservative beliefs and Constitutional freedoms.

Red states leaving the Union or a civil/revolutionary war is the only way to protect our conservative values since the country is now too far gone to save through voting. Boehner and the republican congress proved that. Unfortunately, I fear conservatives are too lazy, gutless, and fractured with in-fighting to actually band together and fight a civil war or a battle to secede. It is truly sad.


119 posted on 06/26/2015 11:15:55 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: Johnny Navarone

“. I just don’t see resistance to this happening beyond perhaps an annual protest in DC...if that.”

You are correct.
There isn’t going to be any armed uprising or any uprising at all.
A lot of Freepers talk about the silent majority but what they leave out is that the majority is silent because they don’t care either way.
As long as the wifi works and they have ESPN and enough of a job to keep all that stuff turned on then they’re not going to risk that.
The worst that will happen is that the left over reaches and for a time maybe things level off. Then after a few years of things being level everything picks up where it left off.
Gay marriage is a perfect example. About 10 years ago states voted to not recognize gay marriage. Because of 9-11 and the war things held level. Now 10 years later everything started back right where it left off and as of this morning gay marriage is a constitutional right.


120 posted on 06/26/2015 11:20:39 AM PDT by snarkybob
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