Cruz Now a ‘No’ on TPA Read more at:

National Review Online - The Corner ^ | June 23, 2015 10:24 AM | Andrew C. McCarthy

[RitaOK]

Oh, puhleeeeze.

“When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When you don’t have the facts, Call Names.”

How embarrassing for you.

[SoConPubbie]

I think that when Cruz admitted the bill contained no immigration prohibition, he was telling the truth. Would that qualify as an answer to “if you know the truth is something else”? Cruz’s statement runs counter to what Gowdy wrote.

Yes, on this statement, both of us can agree. This is what we know beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[Jane Long]

What part of the senator intimates isn't clear, HOSTAGE?

xzins...you do not come across as speaking for Sen Cruz. The article's author claims to know what Sen Cruz "intimated".

You've been EXTREMELY laid-back and level headed in your posts, thoughts and input on this...and every other post (that I can recall).

[Hostage]

I read the 1st TPA and it gave no such powers to Obama. Several notable people said the same thing.

If it gave Obama power, then why did the democrats defeat it? They defeated it so that they could have the chance to amend it so that Obama would be given power. And that’s how the 2nd TPA came about with Boehner’s assistance.

But you have been told this countless times and you refuse to acknowledge it.

Here’s the rock solid proof (posted for the umpteenth time):

http://elizabethwarren.com/blog/heres-what-this-fight-is-all-about

[SoConPubbie]

According to the anti-Cruz trolls, Ted and Heidi are waiting for their big payday from Goldman-Sachs so why would they need donations from the 'little' people?

And Trolls they be, and there can be no doubt of that fact.

[xzins]

Cruz is now saying that TPA #1 was flawed.

[CodeToad]

“5. When Ted Cruz read the Wiki-Leaks leak on the TPA and found out the Immigration language was still in the TPA and Additionally, when McConnell refused to let the Ex-IM bank expire (Corporate Welfare and Corporate Cronyism to the tune of Hundreds of Billions of Loan Guarantee) Cruz refused to vote for it on the second vote. “

So, I take it from that statement that Cruz was willing to vote yes to something he never read???

[Paladin2]

Certainly one is now left wondering whether Cruz is really for it or against it (giving Bammy and likely H! more freedom of action). It’s now impossible to tell though were Cruz to be against until a Conservative might become POTUS I’d view him with favor. Too early to tell at this point.... Cruz has become subject to closer scrutiny of action.

[RitaOK]

So, were Gowdy and Cruz mislead by McConnell?

It just seems to me that the boys didn’t do their homework, on the moving target (contents), of TPA.

Sessions however, seemed to have a grasp from the beginning on both TPA votes. (Grant it, Sessions had the time to grasp it, because he isn’t running for president, and he isn’t running the Benghazi Special Committee.)

[xzins]

Thanks, Jane. I was not speaking for Cruz. I had already copy/pasted the quote, so I assumed hostage hadn’t seen my original post on the subject. That’s why I again copy/pasted the section of the article in which it is report that ‘the senator intimates’ he had been misled.

There really isn’t any running from that quote.

[Paladin2]

That is a big concern. I figured that Cruz was for TPA so as to not totally piss off the GOPee and totally tank their future support for his POTUS run should he come out on top later.

[Hostage]

What are you talking about now? What does the word ‘intimates’ have to do with the issue at hand?

xins is trying to take an excerpt out of context and claim that NOW Senator Cruz is against the first TPA. Nothing could be further from the truth. Ted Cruz never mentioned any such thing.

I read the 1st TPA. There was nothing wrong on paper with the 1st TPA. It gave no harmful powers to Obama.

In fact the democrats were in a panic that it gave Obama no real power for their leftist agenda.

That is made crystal clear in this link that I have posted too many times to keep count:

http://elizabethwarren.com/blog/heres-what-this-fight-is-all-about

[conservativegranny]

My fundraising letter was different than yours. I had a video link. I’m not anti-Cruz. I’m just not one to have blinders on. These are politicians. None are to be trusted.

I’ve donated $150 so far to Cruz’s campaign. Whether or not I continue to donate is not assured. I won’t twist myself into a pretzel to explain these guys actions and make excuses for them.

[Paladin2]

Who didnt recognize that TPA1 was bad for America?

[odawg]

“So, were Gowdy and Cruz mislead by McConnell?”

Everybody in Congress knows McConnell is a liar, will lie with alacrity to push his/Obama’s agenda. He also cuts deals with taxpayer money. They didn’t read the bill if the truth was known.

[Jane Long]

Clear as day, FRiend ;-)

[SoConPubbie]

So, I take it from that statement that Cruz was willing to vote yes to something he never read???

Doubt it.

Nothing in Cruz's record would lead an objective, honest person to assume that.

[Paladin2]

Bingo. Not only 0bama but also 4 yr of H! should she successfully run the gaunlet.

[xzins]

In his initial vote in favor of TPA, the senator intimates that he was misled by Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), who, when pressed on the matter, testily represented to him that there were no side-deals on Ex-Im. Cruz opposes reauthorization of the bank, which is scheduled to expire at the end of this month. He describes Ex-Im as “a classic example of corporate welfare” and cronyism at its worst” — a position Veronique de Rugy has repeatedly and (in my view) compellingly argued here on the Corner. (See archive, here.)

There is no way you can read the above quote from the article as Cruz suggesting that TPA #1 was fine and dandy. He's presented as suggesting he was misled on it. IOW, it's FAULTY!

Maybe I just come out of a literal interpretive hermeneutic for the bible, and that methodology is getting in the way of my seeing what you're saying.

[Jane Long]

A recent fundraising letter I received told me about all of the sacrifices he/his family are making, to run for Prez...and asked me to make a sacrificial gift.