Posted on 06/20/2015 3:02:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Obama will never stand up to Iran but Ted Cruz will.
I don’t subscribe to the notion that the only way to defeat Iran is to invade and takeover. I get my view from an Iranian who I have known for 12 years, have done much business with, who resided in the USA for many years and who played fullback in the International Football League (American style) in Europe, who really respects America, who presently is very concerned that “America is sick” presently and who now resides in Europe as an oil trader and is approached by Iranians who seek to use him. His family lefy Iran when he was a teenager just before the fall of the Shah and they settled in Germany. He went to all the best private schools. Today he is very tuned in to what’s going on inside Iran and what the situation truly is that most people will never know from the MSM.
His view is to triple the sanctions against Iran and enforce them with teeth.
He states that in the time of the Shah, Iran was advanced socially, economically, educationally with universities giving means to young people to obtain skills and preparation to find meaningful work and start families. He states that the society there was mostly secular with Mullahs having little or no influence. In short, he states Iran was a beautiful garden like state overflowing with rich agricultural products, a large middle class, advanced infrastructure, an independent press, latest cars and with a deep rich history open to all faiths for learning Persian history. I have never had a reason to doubt his word.
He states that the advances and peacefulness of Iran started to change when a few of the Shah’s secret police overstepped their authority and caused the middle class and upper middle class to start doubting their government (somewhat similar to what’s going on inside the USA today). He states one thing led to another causing the Mullahs to emerge momentarily as a credible force having their minions seize the opportunity to take control of the government and of all Iranian society.
Sanctions are effective. They block Iran from using international banks to conduct commerce and trade. This forces Iran into black markets where the return is small and risky. These sanctions are enforced by the international community fairly well but cracks and leaks in the economic dam do occur and can only be plugged by enforcement contractors numbering among international mercenaries who are usually former special forces or intelligence agents.
My friend states that the Mullahs have turned Iranian society upside down. For example, all jobs and assignments must be approved for all individuals by the Mullah’s operatives. All marriages must be approved by the Mullahs. In short, the Mullahs have tight centralized control over everything so that the once flourishing free markets of goods and services are effectively dead.
The result is, as stated by my friend, that Iran no longer is self-sufficient and their young people have no future. Iran cannot even build enough housing for its young people.
And the results that I read about are that there is a quiet rebellion brewing among the people of Iran that is just waiting for an opportunity to breakout.
My Iranian friend says the result of tripling the sanctions against Iran will cause mass starvation. I ask him how will starvation bring about anything positive? He states that the Iranians will not hold America or the western societies accountable for the starvation. They will hold the Mullahs accountable. I asked how will a starving people throw off control by the Mullahs and he replied that starving people throw caution to the wind and lay their lives on the line for change; nothing matters to them anymore except to eat and be gone with whatever caused the problem. He said this will bring about the necessary force for revolution. I have to say I can’t argue with his reasoning.
But this article talks about Iran being isolated by mountain ranges, ocean and sea. And so Iran is natually vulnerable to a siege.
My next question to expect was how could America lay siege to Iran’s borders when it cannot control its own? The answer is simple and is one of context. American is not able or willing to deploy its military on its southern border but America can deploy its formidable military technology to destroy anything entering Iran. Maybe later under a President Cruz America will also get serious to control its own border but right now it has the ability to control Iran’s border without one American boot landing on the ground inside Iran.
If we could invade a Europe completely dominated by the very powerful Nazi regime by sea and land men on the Moon, we can do anything we really want bad enough.
“to be able to absorb a nuclear strike and .......still have enough force surviving to constitute credible deterrence.’” B.C.
That may be the most inane pompous SURREAL statement ever to come put of Washington D.C. or anywhere else ....for that matter.
No more Clintons
No More Bush
We dont need another tush.
M.M. 2015
If invasion were the only way to stop Iran, then yes we could and would do it because eventually there would be no more debate. I say ‘eventually’ because when ‘evil’ raises it head for all to see, then the debate is over. So far it’s terror which is horrible, but as soon as a nuke goes off, it becomes ‘evil’ and that’s when all options are on the table.
But I believe invasion is not necessary for Iran. Maybe for ISIS but not for Iran. Iran can be defeated from within.
Hope you read through my long post above. Would like to see your feedback on that.
Not going to happen.
Obammy is a closet mooselimb and a closet fag.
You are aware that the Status of Forces agreement was signed by Bush in 2008 right? And that agreement required all U.S. troops to withdraw by 2011?
But negotiations were ongoing and just incomplete. The Iraqis wanted us to stay, they just wanted the pot sweetened.
In fact, they were shocked when Obama just gave up and pulled out.
So, please, stop this nonsense line that it was Bush's fault.
So would you have left the troops in Iraq without the legal protections against being prosecuted under Iraqi law?
You are being obtuse.
Of course not. It was a matter of continuing the negotiations. The Iraqi government just needed the right greasing to make it happen.
But Obama had no desire to keep troops there and this was an easy way for him to withdraw by doing nothing.
Even the Iraqis did not want us to pull our troops out...they just wanted something in return.
Wow; good catch.
Don’t conquer it
DESTROY IT.
This President will not support the Iranian people fighting from within their Country.
We must use the same strategy we used against Japan.....instead of invasion
we used
.....DESTRUCTION. ONE CITY AT A TIME. NEVER FAILS.
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