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Ted Cruz: No, TPP is NOT a ‘living agreement’
The Right Scoop ^ | Jun 12, 2015

Posted on 06/18/2015 10:38:37 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: SoConPubbie

Good info, but alas - many won’t let facts get in the way of their knee-jerk attempts to take down the most conservative choice we’ve had in decades...


61 posted on 06/18/2015 12:39:32 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Either Cruz is an idiot because he doesn’t understand it or he’s a corupt globalist that could give two sh&ts about you and I.


62 posted on 06/18/2015 12:40:14 PM PDT by tatown
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Because, we might not have the votes when the next President is elected...

Especially since some pundits think we will lose the Senate.

It aint’ rocket science


63 posted on 06/18/2015 12:40:44 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: trebb

Yes because giving Obama more power is the best demonstration of being ‘the most conservative choice in decades’. Wake up you are being played.


64 posted on 06/18/2015 12:43:17 PM PDT by tatown
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To: trebb
Good info, but alas - many won’t let facts get in the way of their knee-jerk attempts to take down the most conservative choice we’ve had in decades...

This is not about trolling Cruz it’s about holding our politicians accountable. Yes, I have criticized his position on trade and the Freedom act because I believe they are wrong. I’m also under the impression the consensus here would agree with me concerning these issues. I find it sad and at times infuriating that some of us refuse to question Cruz about these votes yet have no problem criticizing Obama, the GOPe, or any other dem over the same issues. This is highly hypocritical. It is also this mentality that has given us a congress of unresponsive politicians and allowed the GOPe to flourish.

I like Cruz and would like to see him as president… but only to the extent he is able to legislate in my interest. As Americans we have a duty to correct our politicians when they go astray. Our failure to do so is the leading cause of dysfunction in government. I am not suggesting you drop support for the man. But quit trying to defend his position when it is wrong! Call him out for it before he turns into just another career politician serving his own interests like so many others.

65 posted on 06/18/2015 12:50:33 PM PDT by Roland (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: trebb
Good info, but alas - many won’t let facts get in the way of their knee-jerk attempts to take down the most conservative choice we’ve had in decades...

Sadly, you are correct.

Additionally, we have some trouble-makers whose only goal is to try and damage Ted Cruz whom they see as a threat to their candidate as well. These aren't interested in learning or even an honest debate.
66 posted on 06/18/2015 12:53:47 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: tatown; trebb
Yes because giving Obama more power is the best demonstration of being ‘the most conservative choice in decades’. Wake up you are being played.

No, the ones being played are those agree with ALL of the Democrats(Except Obama), ALL of the Unions, and ALL of the Progressive Groups, including the Communists. When you find yourself agreeing with the likes of these people, it's time to step back and figure out where you have been mis-informed.
67 posted on 06/18/2015 12:55:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

So you are going on record now with your support for TPA and TPP? Cool at least we know where you stand.


68 posted on 06/18/2015 12:57:27 PM PDT by tatown
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To: SoConPubbie
Additionally, we have some trouble-makers whose only goal is to try and damage Ted Cruz whom they see as a threat to their candidate as well. These aren't interested in learning or even an honest debate.

Speaking of honest debates you're primary argument for this seems to be that Ted Cruz supports it. Do you have anything better to offer?

69 posted on 06/18/2015 1:04:56 PM PDT by Roland (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: SoConPubbie

bump


70 posted on 06/18/2015 1:17:44 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Roland

He has nothing. Any argument in support of TPA/TPP is an argument in support of giving Obama more power. That my friend is the bottom line.


71 posted on 06/18/2015 1:27:21 PM PDT by tatown
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To: SoConPubbie
Except that "Trade Agreements" have been around for over 100 years and have been blessed by the Supreme Court as constitutional.

The supreme court has 'blessed' many things that are obscenely unconstitutional.

In this case,what I'm saying is that these "agreements" easily pass the 'duck' test, being as how they walk, quack, and even fly like a duck. The senate should enforce the constitution by admitting the things are ducks, and handling them appropriately.

72 posted on 06/18/2015 1:33:42 PM PDT by zeugma (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3294350/posts)
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To: zeugma
The supreme court has 'blessed' many things that are obscenely unconstitutional.

On that we agree 100%.
73 posted on 06/18/2015 1:53:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: tennmountainman

The GOP should have voted it down and cheered bipartisanship with the Democrats who also opposed it.


74 posted on 06/18/2015 1:53:37 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tennmountainman

“Senator Cruz would not and will not give President Obama one more inch of unrestricted power.’

Good then he needs to vote no on TPA. Lets put this whole trade deal off til a new President comes on board. They have been negotiating it for 6 years. Whats the big rush?


75 posted on 06/18/2015 1:59:12 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tatown

Wait and see if the mood of his supporters redirects his opinion. This will make candidates who are outside of DC look more attractive to conservatives and more competitive to those who supported Obama’s privileges, given to him by this vote.

After all, TPP has not come to the floor for a vote. Will these guys vote with the donors or their supporters with the votes?


76 posted on 06/18/2015 2:04:52 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

It’s too late to reign in Cruz. His vote for TPA is a vote for TPP regardless of what he does now. This is exactly like Cornyn’s vote for cloture, which made his vote for Obamacare mute.


77 posted on 06/18/2015 2:15:42 PM PDT by tatown
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To: RitaOK
Wait and see if the mood of his supporters redirects his opinion.

He doesn't need to change his opinion.
Many of his supporters are covering for him, and explaining away his behavior.
And when that doesn't work they're ridiculing those who dare to speak out.

Of course he might change his opinion after making sure that enough democrats will be voting with the republicans.
78 posted on 06/18/2015 2:25:10 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I agree. What is the rush?

Bonehead & McConnell NEVER ram this hard on common sense
conservative bills.

They only work this hard for the amnesty pimps and globalist.


79 posted on 06/18/2015 2:58:29 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The more he spins this issue, the more he convinces people they’re being hustled.


80 posted on 06/18/2015 3:24:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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