Posted on 06/13/2015 3:29:58 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
Bacon Hotline?! I’m calling now!
Treaties do not require 2/3 anymore. The senate voted that power away this spring.
I note they say this has been in the works since 2009, so I ask who has been in charge since then? Any fool, listening Cruz et al, who believes anything this guy wants to do is in the best interests of this nation, as it now stands while tottering on its foundations, is a bigger fool then can have his motivations to do so based on trade only policies. This agreement, thanks to Wiki btw, goes way beyond lowering tariff barriers and the like, it is a way to make trade our national religion kind of like how Islam is above any government or nation. It must be defeated. Those who support it must be removed, peacefully, but if not and may come to something more chaotic. When NAFTA was in the works, Perot was pillared over his giant sucking sound comment about the sound being the US sucked into Mexico. I guess we have not learned enough of a lesson. Today we want to do the same things on steroids while led by a despot who is a megalomaniac.
You realize that’s not Ted Cruz pictured? It looks like Paul Ryan.
The US is party to at least 5,000 ‘agreements between nations’ that are not treaties.
What Are her links to this massive Trojan Horse and his never ending sea of lies that his staff spits out daily to confuse his sad and oddly crazied followers here.
Bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs.
Hmmm...is this a case of "follow the money"? Perhaps. Cruz's wife is an investment banker for Goldman, Sachs & Co. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But it would be interesting to see if either of these things happen:
1. Goldman's contributions to the Cruz campaign spike.
2. Cruz's wife gets a major promotion/raise.
I suppose those are ugly questions. But they are fair game when someone is running for president. We all know what happens when a candidate is not properly vetted.
You got something to show to prove that assertion? I'm very interested in learning about that.
None of this is recent:
http://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/annotation12.html#f388
“INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS WITHOUT SENATE APPROVAL”
Well, yes. But a line has to be drawn between a low-power agreement (like: I won't tax your wheat if you don't tax my steel) and a high-power agreement like the TPP. I would argue that that line should be drawn as conservatively as possible.
If such an agreement has sweeping powers, or the potential for such powers, it's a treaty.
That’s it! Cruz has lost my support! He has sold out! He is no longer one of us. He is finished. I used to give him money, but no more. Can I get a refund?! He is losing support. 95% of supporters are leaving him...just look at FB.
He is treasonous. He is evil. He has become a RINO. Did you know his wife worked for Goldmann?
There, posted this for the trolls.
Interestingly, the critics want it both ways. They want the information released, so he asks for it to be released. They are still unhappy.
They want him to explain his position, he does it on multiple occasions, but they don’t believe him.
He has done what is asked...and it will never be good enough for the critics on this site. Those with an agenda will see to it that he is destroyed.
Never mind that they NEVER give us a good alternative.
I like Ted. But maybe he and others who support this bill could have withheld
their support UNTIL it was made public. Not before.
It’s a treaty when Congress or the President want it to be. The Constitution is not specific.
You might be interested in a little history of treaties vs. agreements:
http://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/annotation12.html#f388
Calling concerned FReepers ‘trolls’ is like
Cruz’s attack on Sen. Sessions - after Cruz
supported giving Obama more power.
Unwarranted.
Inaccurate.
And an impotent segue from obvious and proven bad judgement.
But, he has sold out...didn’t you hear?
Now, maybe those trolls can give us a better alternative...or maybe not since they lack the courage to say who they support while the troll.
AWWW, are your feelings hurt now?
Tell me if you have any intellectual honesty...WHO do you support or are you just TROLLING? WHO is a better option for Conservatives...or are you just trolling?
Cruz didn’t attack Sessions...he disagreed with him. I know you don’t think there is a difference, but there is. I guess, then, you are attacking me? Get a grip.
Exactly what I thought. This trade deal is a new translation of “Das Kapital”
I would hope that the a treaty would be something that Congress and the President and the Supreme Court want it to be. Even though the President has authority over the conduct of foreign affairs, no one branch should have complete say over something this important.
But, yeah, you've got a point. The Constitution is not specific, so one branch can control the issue if the others are disinterested. Oh, and interesting link by the way. Thanks.
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