Posted on 06/04/2015 6:47:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Not to worry Revrunt Al will BE THERE to Stage RIots to protest her ill treatment....after the demise of her career...
I had the opportunity today to read the appeals case in the so-called “rough ride” case from about 5 years ago. In that case, the guy wasn’t secured, and was cuffed, but he kept banging against the barrier behind the driver and demanding she stop to let him use the restroom. In the middle of that activity, he apparently got injured, and when they opened the door, they found him conscious, but unable to move his legs. The officers then removed him from the van, drove him to the hospital, and put him in a wheelchair to roll him to the ER. The primary issue in that case was that they should have stabilized the injury before moving him. The severity of his injury, which subsequently lead to his death, was believed to be increased by the improper handling. So there’s a third possible cause, which can’t be ruled out until we know how he was handled at the scene. Fourth is any of a multitude of possible mishaps during his hospital stay.
On YouTube at the moment is the news conference from 4/20, the day after his death, in which the Police Commissioner states that he had a conversation with the coroner following the autopsy on that date and the coroner opined, “we may not know the answers to all the questions”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XGPJtS_6g
Normally, what they would have been waiting for would have been the full tox results and the results of any special tissue examinations that might have been requested. So that’s what would be new in the autopsy results she has now. Either they don’t help her case, or she’s just game playing trying to slow-roll the defense. I think we’re safe in assuming, given her behavior so far, that she’d be trumpeting anything that proved her assumptions to be correct.
Oh, by the way, I’m not certain the guy seen running past the camera, then into the building is Freddie. Freddie was wearing a rather distinctive jacket when captured, and that runner appears to be in a black hoodie. It’s possible that’s the other guy who was running, which would also explain why he’s not seen coming out of the building again. The timing’s also not quite right for running down the street, across the courtyard, into the apartment, then back out and a block north to where Freddie was grabbed. The police radio traffic shows that all took place within a minute, with the first officer saying “I got him” 40 seconds after the pursuit was called out.
You are absolutely correct, and that option should not be forgotten.
Did the police van go to the police station, then upon finding Freddie unconscious, did they ferry him to the hospital ?
If so, did they just take him as he was, or did they attempt to move him ?
OK. Thanks. I thought I had read that they had concluded that it was him, based on details of location and timing.
I’m not surprised to find out that the early conclusion might be incorrect.
Well, it’s kind of complicated. Upon arriving at the station, they requested an ambulance.
The information Fire Dispatch got was “male with an arm injury”. Fire Dispatch had received an identical call at a nearby location two minutes earlier, and had dispatched an ambulance to it.
An injured arm call is not life threatening and FD apparently reasoned the efficient thing to do was to check the first scene, then divert the ambulance to the second location if, as they believed, the call was a duplicate.
When the ambulance reached the first scene four minutes after the call for Freddie came in, they found a patient there which told dispatch the calls were NOT duplicates, and dispatch then immediately sent a second ambulance, this time to the police station. The net effect of this confusion was a five and a half minute delay between getting the call for Freddie and dispatching the call.
That delay is partially offset by the fact that the second ambulance was nearby, and was on the scene in three minutes. In an ideal situation, though, had there not been near-simultaneous calls, and had the closest ambulance been dispatched, it would have gotten to Freddie five and a half minutes sooner.
When the medic unit arrived, they evaluated Freddie, and requested additional manpower for a non-breather. An engine and an EMS supervisor were dispatched to the station, and the medics subsequently worked on him for 17 minutes on scene. (That timing’s about right for starting resuscitation and fluids, getting the injury stabilized (Cervical collar), and packaging them for transport.) The prevailing theory these days is stabilize the patient, then transport, so that would have been appropriate care.
Somewhere in the course of that time period, he would have been carefully removed from the van and placed in the ambulance. The ambulance then transported him to the hospital, taking six minutes. Total time from the call from the station to arrival at the hospital was 35 minutes.
Thank you for the response , and all the info.
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