Why Is the CDC So Vehemently Anti-Vaping?

National Review ^ | 5/18/15 | Sally Satel

[FreedomStar3028]

Right, but how likely is it for a smoker to light up and blow smoke in your face? It’s much more likely that a non-smoker goes and blows their opinions in a smokers face.

Know how many times non smokers (strangers) come up to ME, and tell me how bad smoking is, etc? Lots of times. It really pisses me off, so I piss them off. Usually saying something rude back.

But vaping leaves zero to no smell or residue on anything, and the smells aren’t very offensive at all, no ash, no cigarette butts all over. But those holier then thou types are now all over vaping. Just because they think they are the center of the universe, they’re right and no matter what you say will prove them otherwise. I’m sick and tired of it. Nothing is more irritating then having a smoke and some dipstick idiot comes up to you and starts lecturing you out of no where when you have 10-15 minutes for a break or lunch.

[nathanbedford]

Did you ever fly transatlantic in the days before smoking was banned?

Non-smokers suffered real discomfort but the smokers were intent on relieving their own discomfort, that is the discomfort of withdrawal from a highly addictive drug.

Now I am not one to gratuitously lecture somebody who is smoking in free air about his health. Indeed, I am one of the nuts on this forum who advocates the legalization of all drugs. Nor am I one to oppose these E cigarettes, they seem to make much more sense than the real thing.

I want to leave you in peace and I want you to leave me in peace.

[i_robot73]

And, I would pay GOOD $$ to see ANYONE summoned to the small desk tearing those in D.C. a new @sshole.

“Tell me, Senator: Do YOU know how to balance a checkbook?”. Rip into each of their voting records. Better yet, their portfolios and ask how most of ‘em came in ‘poor’ and are now multimillionaires

[Katya]

Why is it assumed Dreyfuss was vaping nicotine? lol

[papertyger]

Now I am not one to gratuitously lecture somebody who is smoking in free air about his health.

Nevertheless, you ARE moralizing predicated on a societal environment that hasn't existed in many, many years.

That's not like you.

[GOPJ]

The CDC is liberal elite - they’re probably corrupt. Like Hillary - like ABC News... like all the leftist liars...

[Peter W. Kessler]

I’ve been vaping since 2009.

I vape discreetly. Most people don’t even know I’m vaping, but they ask me what I’m holding in my hand.

I never, never, NEVER blow water vapor in other peoples’ faces.

Never.

That’s rude, and I try never to be rude.

The CDC / FDA / alphabet agency of your choice will back off once a method of taxation is adopted.

Then, vaping will be just hunky-dory with our masters.

[The Toll]

Six months without a cigarette yesterday. All thanks to vaping. I’ve tried everything and this finally worked for me.

From my cold dead hands!

[GOPJ]

There is also the question of money. The rise of e-cigarettes means lower profits for the pharmaceutical companies that make nicotine gum, patches, and anti-smoking medications, and less revenue for states that are addicted to cigarette taxes. For tobacco companies, each e-cigarette purchased means fewer cigarettes sold. It’s not surprising, then, that the profit-seekers have aligned with the prohibitionists to promote heavy-handed and costly FDA regulation that would suppress e-cigarette use and overwhelm the budgets of small, upstart vaping companies. Economist Bruce Yandle calls such collaboration between odd bedfellows the “bootleggers and Baptists” model of regulation...

And profit...

[SaraJohnson]

The Lefty radicals need to mind their own business. Not everyone chooses to live by their health obsessions/moralism.

With vapors they can not whine about themselves being victims of another’s choice like with second hand smoke. If it gets people off ciggs and maybe even addiction to nicotine, that is a good thing.

[JimRed]

I thought vaping was inhaling alcohol vapors. When did that change?

[nathanbedford]

I was responding originally to this statement made by FreedomStar3028 in reply #7:

"Really, the anti-smoking craze is all because people don’t like the smell. Okay, well don’t hang around smokers then is your business. But if you stand around them, and complain about the smell and preach to them about their health. That’s not your business and you can pound sand."

So I said this in reply #12:

"A smoker has no more right to pollute my atmosphere than does a prankster with a stink bomb or a terrorist with a lethal gas. Conversely, I have no right to stop a smoker from pursuing his addiction in the open where it does not affect me and, equally, neither do I have the right to enlist the government to stop him.

I will even go so far as to say that compulsory healthcare paid in part by the taxpayers does not justify the government in restricting smoking because it adds to the cost of healthcare."

This hardly sounds like preaching to me.

Equally my reply #42 which simply says let's leave each other in peace. For heaven's sake, I note that I would legalize drugs and that certainly would include tobacco. Finally, I stated I do not oppose E cigarettes, so why am I lecturing people gratuitously about anything?

I even believe that vapor tobacco consumption should be permitted in crowded places because the practice is not offensive but cigarettes are offensive and should not be allowed in crowded places. Why is that moralizing? I suppose the observation that my alleging moralizing was predicated on a social environment that has not existed for many years, is based on the assumption that I moralizing-I am not. But even if I were, the "moralizing" is limited to being left alone by smokers and that is a context which can occur in a social situation such as a private party in a private home even today.

I don't feel particularly abashed about moralizing over smoking no matter how defined, after all, it is a deadly killer but I don't see the utility of moralizing, it tends not to work and leads only to resentment.

I do see a great deal of virtue in defending my right to be left alone.

[Kenny Bunk]

Nicotine itself actually has a few benefits, or so I thought. E.G., Vitamin B-6 is Nicotinic Acid. Isn't it the other crap in cigarette smoke that is the problem?

I am trying to pressure the nicotine fiends of my acquaintance to try these little gizmos, but they are mighty resistant. Me, I never smoked, but now am hyper-allergic to tobacco smoke in any form and can't even go into smoky bars any more, which was a favorite pastime, or go into the tobacco-reeking homes of my best pals!

This is series!

[Professional Engineer]

Bfl

[BlueLancer]

"But vaping leaves zero to no smell or residue on anything, and the smells aren’t very offensive at all, no ash, no cigarette butts all over."

I don't smoke ... have never smoked. But I had friends who did (and, later, a new wife that did), although I didn't allow smoking in the house or in the car. My wife tried to stop smoking on several occasions, but it just didn't work (and she became nastier than a wolverine with a nail in its paw).

Over a year ago, she started vaping; her moods improved, her breath and the smell of her clothes improved, and, most of all, I have to admit that I like the smell of the vapor; it reminds me of newly-spun cotton candy (even though she uses tobaco-flavoring in her liquid). She (and all other "hookah" users) can now vape in the house and in the cars. I don't mind. She vapes on long car trips and I get the added benefit of smelling cotton candy for the whole trip.

[Inyo-Mono]

BTTT.

[Klemper]

You may be right... and maybe I am in the minority.... but I started vaping about 1.5 years ago. Last November, after finding my favorite flavors, I decided to stop smoking cigarettes. I went on my yearly fishing trip, where I knew that cigarettes would not be readily available, and only took my vaping gear. I came home, a week later, and was no longer smoking tobacco. It is a WIN WIN for me. There are two more people that I know of, where I work, that have given up smoking and are vaping.

[Klemper]

Not all smokers do that. Just like not all smokers burn their tobacco around where it affects you.

[T-Bone Texan]

My brother in law is at the skill level where he mixes his own flavors and potencies.

He made a flavor that smells and tastes like Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal.