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Ben Carson: Freddie Gray's Injury 'Almost Impossible to Acquire by Simply Rolling Around in a Van'
Christian Post ^ | 05/05/2015 | Leonardo Blair

Posted on 05/05/2015 7:16:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Kazan

Whatever. Anyone NOT wanting to show what really happened is covering something up. It’s that simple.

Like the police always say...if you don’t have anything to hide what are you afraid of. Oh that only works when the police want to question the citizens. But when the citizens want to question the police...well there is plenty to hide.


81 posted on 05/05/2015 12:56:02 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Kazan

And that’s not all the video would do. If Darren Wilson had a body cam that video could have been released early and show that thug never raised his hands and was the attacker.


82 posted on 05/05/2015 1:00:51 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
Anyone NOT wanting to show what really happened is covering something up

Again, any video will simply be used to attack police and claim something happened that didn't in many cases. And, as result, police will be more reluctant to their jobs and protect citizens.

The endless acts on police is going to result crime rates we haven't see in decades.

Liberaltarians are stupid as liberals on many issues

83 posted on 05/05/2015 1:02:54 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: for-q-clinton
If Darren Wilson had a body cam that video could have been released early and show that thug never raised his hands and was the attacker.

I doubt that would have convince Al Sharpton and the mob trying to lynch Darren Wilson. They believe what they want to believe.

84 posted on 05/05/2015 1:04:47 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: TheThirdRuffian

The key words being almost impossible. So it could have happened. The guy was a drug dealer.


85 posted on 05/05/2015 1:15:18 PM PDT by Carry me back (.)
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To: Kazan

So police will only do their jobs if we don’t question the manner in which they do it?


86 posted on 05/05/2015 1:21:12 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: All
‘All most impossible, not possible, etc.’

Well here is one for you. A kid in Southern CA was playing soccer and went up for a head ball. When he came down his chin hit the top of another kid's head, resulting in a broken neck that killed him. Not the same thing as Gray's situation, but strange things do happen and can cause unusual damage.

87 posted on 05/05/2015 1:32:22 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
So police will only do their jobs if we don’t question the manner in which they do it?

Absolutely they will become trigger shy if they are given an anal exam every time they have to use force.

Your suggestion is a criminal's best friend and that is why the ACLU and Obama are so in favor of the body cameras.

88 posted on 05/05/2015 1:34:10 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

I could careless about Sharpton. But the NFL players probably wouldn’t be coming out with hands-up and other stupid crap like that. It would have just been the really stupid race baiters “believing” it.


89 posted on 05/05/2015 1:45:51 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Kazan

And arresting the police won’t make them trigger shy? Only body cams will?

What happened here is a real tragedy if the cops did nothing wrong. And body cams would be able to show that. But instead we have to arrest 6 cops—and you don’t think that will have a chilling effect on cops arresting people?


90 posted on 05/05/2015 1:49:13 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Kazan

BTW: Cops have used body cams for years in some areas. They haven’t quit their jobs or stopped arresting people.


91 posted on 05/05/2015 1:50:08 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Kazan

Okay, as long as you’re good with a world where police can inflict violence on anyone they want with impunity.


92 posted on 05/05/2015 1:50:08 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: for-q-clinton

http://hamptonroads.com/2011/08/chesapeake-police-expand-use-body-cameras

^ read this article from 2011.


93 posted on 05/05/2015 1:51:02 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: peeps36
>> I still think he could have inflicted them on himself.


Isn't self harm a sign of drug seeking behavior? I have no idea what happened but it would be interesting to hear from people that work in inner city emergency rooms. If Gray were going through withdrawals is it far fetched to think he would try anything to get a fix?
94 posted on 05/05/2015 3:58:42 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Vigilanteman
The fact that Dr. Carson sees the need to even comment at this point shows he is not ready for prime time.

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Agreed.

95 posted on 05/05/2015 4:04:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

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96 posted on 05/05/2015 5:11:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (No Whizz, No Peace!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Okay, as long as you’re good with a world where police can inflict violence on anyone they want with impunity.

Gee, if they wanted to do that, they could turn the body cameras off.

99.9% of police officers don't inflict violence on innocent people.

Here's clue -- don't commit crimes and resist arrest and police won't harm you. Pretty simple.

97 posted on 05/06/2015 12:29:25 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Gee, if they wanted to do that, they could turn the body cameras off.,

It's interesting how often you hear the "Oh, the camera wasn't working" line when these things happen.

Here's clue -- don't commit crimes and resist arrest and police won't harm you.

Do you want a list of people who were minding their own business and the police harmed them? Look up Dillon Taylor. Joseph Schultz. Donald Scott. Akai Gurley. Kathryn Johnston. Patricia Cook. Levar Jones. John Williams.

You want more? I got more. Or is looking at these cases and finding the police acted improperly on perfectly innocent people who weren't committing crimes the kind of thing that will make police refuse to do the job? Because if you can't shoot people who were minding their own business, not committing any crime until you came along and say it was accident, or that you felt threatened, what's the point of being a cop, right? Who'd want that job?

98 posted on 05/06/2015 12:58:41 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Do you want a list of people who were minding their own business and the police harmed them? Look up Dillon Taylor. Joseph Schultz. Donald Scott. Akai Gurley. Kathryn Johnston. Patricia Cook. Levar Jones. John Williams

So what? With hundreds of police departments, police make mistakes as one did with Dillon Taylor. They should be fired and/or charged.

But, a handful of examples out of tens of thousands of arrests each year isn't an example of widespread police abuse. In fact, it is to be expected because police are human beings that make mistakes.

Again, truly corrupt cops would turn off the cameras.

Body cameras will turn policing into a circus, make police hesitant to do their jobs and increase the crime rate. As result, more innocent people will die.

Libertarians are stupid as liberals on many issues.

99 posted on 05/07/2015 9:30:19 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
With hundreds of police departments, police make mistakes as one did with Dillon Taylor. They should be fired and/or charged.

So where's the line between holding police responsible for their mistakes and firing them and "an anal exam every time they have to use force," as you put it, that will make them reluctant to do their jobs?

100 posted on 05/07/2015 11:29:13 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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