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Mexican Cartels Try to Create a Market for Meth in New York City
Newsweek ^ | 4/21/15 | VICTORIA BEKIEMPIS

Posted on 04/25/2015 11:12:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nathanbedford

I think it was spiritually unfortunate that in an attempt to create a virtuous culture, an inanimate item had evil ascribed to it.

The only real way out of such conundrums is to remember a long forgotten God. God is not some hypothetical moralizing nanny in the sky, but an omnipresent presence that has the capability of comforting and supernaturally providing and guiding beyond anything anyone could deserve (among many, many other marvelous things). In the presence of God, the loss incurred through gratuitous (non medical) consumption of intoxicants is seen immediately as the folly it is. This loss is to leave the wonders of God and to begin to fight against them.


41 posted on 04/26/2015 12:55:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: nickcarraway
You are paying for the meth addict.

You are paying for his incarceration,his lawyer, his fatherless children, his emergency medical bills, his unemployment insurance, everything that has consequence from drug addiction ends up on your tab.


42 posted on 04/26/2015 12:56:02 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; nickcarraway
Everything you just wrote should replace the drug laws found in United States code annotated and every elected representative should be made to memorize those words.


43 posted on 04/26/2015 12:58:45 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nickcarraway

How about “working hard” (in a sense of striving with desire, not by way of meriting) to rediscover the wonders of God?

Then once you know about them, share them with others.

We are stumbling around in darkness making great expenditures to curse it when what was really needed was some light.

A number of things were banned in bible times, but never a drug or the sincere practice of medicine. Only, “sorcery” (one kind of abuse) was sternly prohibited.


44 posted on 04/26/2015 1:01:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: nathanbedford

They won’t mean a thing to someone who hasn’t become convinced of the divine power.

That’s pretty much all our modern Democrats and a whole lot of modern Republicans.

America started so well because of the belief in a bible ethic if not full-on acceptance of the divine presence of God.

The pre-Prohibition hymns about stopping the brewing were to redirect gospel responsibility away from where the bible said it should be. God said to subdue nature, but never said turn the world into a rubber room.


46 posted on 04/26/2015 1:06:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yehuda

“Changing education so that people will not want it” involves a Redeemer. Are you up to that?


47 posted on 04/26/2015 1:07:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yehuda
are you freaking crazy?

You support this freaking war on drugs and you accuse me of being crazy.


48 posted on 04/26/2015 1:08:22 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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A war that is on drugs is so much war that is not for personal responsibility in the use of ANYTHING...


49 posted on 04/26/2015 1:10:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Inevitably, the war on drugs is a war waged against individual responsibility, a war waged against the sovereignty of the individual, it is a war waged against privacy and a war waged on behalf of the collective. It is a war designed to impose secular punishments for the wages of sin.

We Christians who oppose the use of drugs (as I do) ought to understand that when the government intervenes between the sinner and the consequences of his sin it secularizes the sacred relationship between man and God because the state plays God and substitutes itself for our maker.


52 posted on 04/26/2015 1:16:56 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Inevitably, the war on drugs is a war waged against individual responsibility Isn't legalization war against individual responsibility? It's saying the government is entirely responsible for the individual, and absolves the individual of any responsibility.
53 posted on 04/26/2015 1:25:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Yehuda
Forgive my impetuous for assuming when you said,

EXTERMINATE THE DEALERS

That you would not want to skip the intermediate step of making their deals illegal.


54 posted on 04/26/2015 1:26:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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How about “working hard” (in a sense of striving with desire, not by way of meriting) to rediscover the wonders of God?

Even Karl Marx foresaw that drugs (opiates) would substitute religion. Yet another reason the Soroses of the world endorse it. They see it's the path to greatly diminish the influence of religion in this country.

55 posted on 04/26/2015 1:28:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nathanbedford

impetuousness


56 posted on 04/26/2015 1:28:14 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nickcarraway
It substitutes the legal responsibility for the moral responsibility.


57 posted on 04/26/2015 1:30:05 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

I’m not sure what you’re arguing for—that it should be legal and thus have prices decline because of the loss of government price supports?

Will that not make the problem worse?


59 posted on 04/26/2015 4:03:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nickcarraway

Wall Street on meth. Yeah, lets see how that works out.


60 posted on 04/26/2015 4:10:13 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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