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What If Abraham Lincoln Lived?
Accuracy in Academia ^ | April 23, 2015 | Spencer Irvine

Posted on 04/23/2015 8:10:28 AM PDT by Academiadotorg

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To: Academiadotorg
Lincoln’s successor, Andrew Johnson, failed to bring the Union together after the end of the Civil War and “barely survived impeachment” from his own Republican Party.

Johnson was a Democrat who joined with Lincoln on a fusion ticket for the election of 1864.
21 posted on 04/23/2015 8:43:18 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Academiadotorg

100 years from now, the armchair question will be, “Would the United States not have fallen apart if the country hadn’t allowed socialists to import 100 million illegal socialist voters...”


22 posted on 04/23/2015 8:49:56 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

True. He was not in favor of “Reconstruction” and would have healed the divide quicker. Johnson was a tool for the northern governors and Congressmen who wanted blood and secure the north’s industrial leverage for 100 years. Sort of like the other Johnson insuring democrap voters for 100 years.


23 posted on 04/23/2015 8:53:40 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: hanamizu

I believe Lincoln sent a signal in his instructions to Grant to “...let ‘em up easy”, with regard to Lee’s surrender.

Though we’ll never know what that really meant.

I do believe however, that Lincoln would have come back to a fuller sense of the Constitution after having trashed so much of it during the War.

But again, that’s merely my belief.


24 posted on 04/23/2015 8:56:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: edwinland
Also, it could have had large implications in politics, as it would have changed the existing three-fifths rule, where slaves were counted as three-fifths of a person.

Once slavery was abolished, the three-fifths rule became moot. It would still be effective, but would apply to a nonexistent group of people. You could just as easily say that space aliens only count as three-fifths of a person.

25 posted on 04/23/2015 9:05:13 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Johnson was a tool for the northern governors and Congressmen who wanted blood and secure the north’s industrial leverage for 100 years.

Such a tool that they attempted to impeach him for being too easy on the south.

26 posted on 04/23/2015 9:19:09 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Academiadotorg; All

If Lincoln had lived:

Liberia’s population, today, would be 40 million larger.
America’s population, today, would be 40 million smaller.

Now, about the crime rate...


27 posted on 04/23/2015 9:22:54 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I think Lincoln's legacy is a consequence of the fact that he died.

Lincoln won the Civil War; that's legacy enough for a president. His second term would have been noteworthy by fights with the Radical Republicans but I think Lincoln could still have gotten a lot accomplished.

28 posted on 04/23/2015 9:29:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: edwinland
But would they have constituted a majority in any Southern State or congressional district?

Yes, the state of South Carolina was majority black while Alabama and Mississippi were around 50% black. In addition, many congressional districts through the cotton belt were majority black then just as they are now.

29 posted on 04/23/2015 9:29:10 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Alex Murphy

“Help me get out of this coffin!”

or

“Does anybody have any aspirin, I’ve got a killer headache.”


30 posted on 04/23/2015 9:41:54 AM PDT by Holdem Or Foldem (My sources are anonymous and tightly held. :))
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To: Academiadotorg

If Lincoln had survived the shot to his head, he’d still have more brains than the POS in the White House today.


31 posted on 04/23/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Holdem Or Foldem

“How did the play end?”


32 posted on 04/23/2015 9:46:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Academiadotorg

PFL


33 posted on 04/23/2015 9:52:41 AM PDT by Batman11 (The orange, weeping, drunk, squishy oompah-loompah and Yertle McTurd-le gotta go!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

He would have become riviled and hated by the radicals who wanted to punish the south—He would not be the “great man” we see him as these days.


34 posted on 04/23/2015 10:20:23 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

No doubt martyrdom elevated his stature.


35 posted on 04/23/2015 10:31:50 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: mass55th

Well played.


36 posted on 04/23/2015 10:48:50 AM PDT by CarolinaPeach
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“No doubt martyrdom elevated his stature.”

Mediocre Presidents seeking a legacy should consider that option.


37 posted on 04/23/2015 10:48:51 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The point was to punish and keep the South less progressed than the North. That was the original intent of the 3/5ths person and the war. Most of the big investors in big southern plantations and slavery were Northern business.

Had Lincoln lived the recovery may have been better, sooner. It is often reported that Lincoln intended to ship the slaves back to their homeland, if that had been true it would definitely prevented a lot of discord, crime and poverty, even today. As it now is America may never pay off our pay-back.


38 posted on 04/23/2015 11:36:44 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

I think the damage was done when the slaves were brought over from Africa to the Americas to begin with. That cannot be blamed on the U.S. IMHO. Slavery was started under colonial rule and was ended by the U.S. Some would argue that slavery should have ended right at the beginning of our nation’s finding. But we had to get through two wars with the greatest military power on earth, not to mention periodic conflicts with the Indians first.


39 posted on 04/23/2015 11:51:16 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: X-spurt
That was the original intent of the 3/5ths person and the war.

The net effect of the 3/5ths rule was to give the South a disproportionate level of representation in the House. How did that punish the South?

40 posted on 04/23/2015 11:53:34 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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