Full - Mark Levin EXPOSES how US Senate just GUTTED constitutional treaty power and GAVE IT TO OBAMA

Noisy Room ^ | April 15 2015 | Terresa Monroe Hamilton

[GraceG]

[ The law was that it took 67 votes in the Senate to approve any treaty.

NOW, the doofus assed Republicans have decided that the Senate gets 30 days to look at the treaty and either approve it or not approve it, BUT the Obongo can veto their ruling and it will take 67 votes to override Obongos veto.

Something like that. ugh No wonder Obongo approves.

Pathetic ]

It is basically like going from constutitional “limits on government” law to napoleonic “The law specificially lists your specific rights” law with the stroke of a pen from jackasses who have apparently had strokes...

[Georgia Girl 2]

I hate to disagree with Levin but my understanding is that Obutt is trying to call this deal with Iran an Executive Agreement which does not require advise and consent. The Senate is attempting to get some control over the situation by passing a veto proof bill which does give them advise and consent over the situation. Normally the Senate only ratifies treaties. I’m not sure what other course the Senate can take other than just grouse about it.

[dforest]

The truth is, the Senate would never have been put in this position if they had put the brakes on Obama a long time ago.

Obama has violated his oath as President on a daily basis. All they did was grouse about it.

The fools gave up their power the minute they bacame too cowardly to live up to their own oath.

[Whenifhow]

If it’s a bill for the President to sign, the House has to pass it, too.
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This deal with Iran is not legislation - it is a treaty.
The senate was going to pass legislation requiring congress weigh in - that’s different.

Some good responses on the thread about requirements to approve a treaty. See #16 and #20 among others.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Yes the remedy for an out of control President is Impeachment and the Congress and Senate just don’t have the stomach for it or the votes for it. Now they are reduced to this kind of hocky tock. Obama is going to continue to blaze a trail of destruction through this country and the world for 21 more mos unless he is removed from office.

[scooby321]

Your Nuts

When the US went to UN it kind of took the Treaty Clause off the table.

UN sanctions are not bound by the US Treaty Clause

That is the problem of the UN

[aquila48]

And even if you get 60 votes the president would still need to sign it. If he doesn’t then the Senate would need 2/3 of the votes to override his veto.

Congress has essentially abdicated all its power. The president is king.

[CSM]

“The law was that it took 67 votes in the Senate to approve any treaty.”

I don’t mean to nitpick you, but I must clarify. The consent requirement requires “2/3rds of the those PRESENT.” As a result, the number of votes is not defined.

[Political Junkie Too]

The senate was going to pass legislation requiring congress weigh in - that’s different.

This is all nonsense. Even if they were to pass something like this, the House has to pass it, too. If Obama vetoes it, essentially saying that Congress will not participate, and Congress cannot override the veto, the Senate still retains its consent power over treaties.

If the bill survives, it still doesn't replace the treaty consent power in the Senate. That power is Supreme. No matter what happens from a vote under this new law, if it is a treaty then it must undergo a separate consent vote in the Senate with a super-majority requirement.

-PJ

[caligatrux]

Congress has essentially abdicated all its power. The president is king.

Congress abdicated all its power when Obama began taking illegal and unconstitutional actions a long time ago, and they refused to do anything about it.

All of this means nothing to Obama. The entire Congress could vote against it, and he'd still do it anyway because no one would stop him.

Congress is playing politics with itself without regard to the law or even reality. Obama isn't playing politics, he's destroying the country.

That is where we are now. There is no real struggle in DC, no opposition to what Obama is actually doing. The DC elite are just worrying about election polling and pandering to their various donor groups.

Obama has been beyond all that for a while now. He is not pursuing a political agenda, he is actively engaged in accomplishing his ideological goals.

Congress is down in the ballroom having a beauty pageant for the DC and media elite while Obama is up in the wheelhouse ramming the Titanic into every iceberg he can find.