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Corroborating details emerging on backroom gun deal with ATF
Examiner ^ | 4/12/15 | David Codrea

Posted on 04/12/2015 11:18:40 AM PDT by Nachum

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1 posted on 04/12/2015 11:18:40 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 04/12/2015 11:20:56 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

bump


3 posted on 04/12/2015 11:25:42 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Nachum

Contrivance by both sides...


4 posted on 04/12/2015 11:27:20 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Nachum

Back room deals are not consistent with informed consent of the governed, the source of just power according to the Declaration of Independence.


5 posted on 04/12/2015 11:28:07 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Nachum
the third will involve a concession

0 Conceeding anything against these people is to lose it forever.

6 posted on 04/12/2015 11:31:09 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Nachum
Murder is already illegal, self defense isn't (depending on jurisdiction).
Why does it matter exactly what kind of gun you use for either.

7 posted on 04/12/2015 11:33:16 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Nachum
Microregulation is microagression by government, if I may borrow a recent fad word that I despise, but it works here.
It's a display of power and it pisses me off.

8 posted on 04/12/2015 11:34:19 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Nachum

Ok if they did wrong(Which the ATF did do) why would you (NRA)negotiate with them? Now Common Sense, if the ATF does negotiate, do they admit they were wrong. How is it the ATF is only dealing with the NRA, What about every Individual out here (and other groups on top of that, example Georgia Gun Owners)??? Where I support the NRA I DO (and Did) NOT Give them the Right To Negotiate Rights away... They are to Amplify Our Voices but in no way can sell them out.

How could Our(others groups) Rights be lost in this, should We not still have the ability to hold the Government Accountable and is this not then an admission of Guilt making the burden of Fact much easier for everyone else???


9 posted on 04/12/2015 11:34:35 AM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Nachum

The Constitution DOES NOT MENTION SPORTING. The purpose of private firearms is to take back a government out of control.


10 posted on 04/12/2015 11:39:46 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (When did the 2nd amendment suddenly require a license or permit to exercise as a right?)
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11 posted on 04/12/2015 11:43:22 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Nachum

the second amendment was not written for deer or bear hunting..

it was written to allow the citizens to overthrow a government gone rogue..

with that in mind, any and all arms that our nations military possesses, we not only have a right, but a DUTY to possess and maintain..

this includes cannon, tank, mortar and grenades..

we also have a right to possess aircraft, naval surface and beneath surface vessels and missiles..

now for the a$$hole who asks if this includes nuclear weapons i have but one question..

if a rogue government has taken control of this country, and their only hope of maintaining control was to nuke cities, would they do it???

if your answer is yes, then my answer is yes, we as citizens have not only a right but a duty to possess nuclear weapons..

i await your answers


12 posted on 04/12/2015 11:46:11 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: BitWielder1

Maybe instead of the term microagression, the term ‘incremental aggression’ could be used.

Similar to The boiling pot of frogs syndrome.


13 posted on 04/12/2015 11:55:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Since we built and paid for the nukes, I think we do own them. However, possession and ownership are two different things.


14 posted on 04/12/2015 11:57:16 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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... not only a right but a duty to possess nuclear weapons..

Subject, perhaps, to certain zoning restrictions.

15 posted on 04/12/2015 12:07:34 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Nachum
Sipsey Street Irregulars.
16 posted on 04/12/2015 12:08:38 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: joe fonebone
the second amendment was not written for deer or bear hunting..

it was written to allow the citizens to overthrow a government gone rogue..

Exactly. 2A is the Constitution's Doomsday provision. For it to have its intended effect, there must be no infringement on the ownership and use by private citizens of effective combat arms, not sporting arms.

17 posted on 04/12/2015 12:13:21 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Nachum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_Consequences_%28novel%29


18 posted on 04/12/2015 12:13:21 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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The NRA cannot make ‘deals’ to expand the meaning of the nonsensical “Sporting use” clause. They can say they won’t sue the ATF or the NRA will not inform their members about any ‘negotiated’ backroom deals.

The ATF could still be sued and humiliated in court over trying to illegally expand beyond the scope of the law by individuals or by other rights group like the Gun Owners of America.


19 posted on 04/12/2015 12:13:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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If I do wrong, do I get a backroom deal too?


20 posted on 04/12/2015 12:20:47 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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