Posted on 04/08/2015 6:30:38 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jet_aircraft_of_World_War_II
A surprising amount of development went on in the last years of the war on all sides. Things ended before many got into production, the 262 being a notable example.
and a lot of the early (American, for example) jets were not any better than the P-51 Mustang and so never went into battle
the idea that we had no jets before we stole them from the nazi’s is ludicrous (I remember some old theories on that)
To ensure we die with the most toys...
Sheesh....
The ME 262 was almost ready for mass production as an air superiority fighter in ‘43. Engine problems were a factor but it was Hitler’s insistence that it be able to do ground attack that stifled development. Messerschmidt was forced to rework the design so it could carry a few bombs. This diminished it’s already run-away capabilities but more crucially, delayed production until it was too late in the war to produce the thing in numbers that would’ve made a difference - and it certainly could have been a game changer in ‘43. It definitely outclassed the Lockheed P-80 and the British Gloster Meteor, the only allied jet designs in late development.
F-35 is a joke on tax payers.
Perhaps see what sukhois are capable of.
You’re greatly underestimating the enemy.
In other words, the plans were stolen and new systems have to be created.
“In other words, the plans were stolen and new systems have to be created.”
BINGO!
Thanks Edward Snowden, or his ilk!
Hillary’s back door server?
Perhaps, but I’m not sure the Pentagon trusts Foggy Bottom with anything.
I’m not underestimating anything. Western aircraft have an astounding kill ratio vs. Russian aircraft and I expect that will continue for the foreseeable future. Western pilots get far more flying hours, train in operational level exercises, and many have some type of combat experience. The Russian and Chinese equipment, pilots, and operational capabilities have yet to be tested in any kind of actual combat.
A lot of people look at the SU-27/30/33/35 and think it is some kind of super aircraft that will sweep Western fighters from the sky. But then you find out about its engine problems, maintenance issues, poor air search radars, sensors that don’t work half the time, and many other issues. Until I see a stack of F-22s and F-35s shot down in flames and Sukhois flying triumphantly in the sky over them, I’ll take the F-22/F-35 combo.
Well, then, I want a toy! A simple A1 SkyRaider would be sufficient.
Really?
Think yood be happier in a P51 Mustang or and F4 ala Pappy Boyington “ Baa, Baa, Black Sheep”.
Flown a P-51. Wasn’t all that comfortable. Don’t think an F4 would be much better. Never been in an A1.
Active Duty ping.
My first flight-instructor flew those during the war.
Amazing, and he lived to tell about it. Those ME110s were supposed to be the F-35 of their day and failed miserably. The concept of an all-in-one fighter/ground attack/miracle working wonder plane should have died then but it comes around every generation. McNamara tried it with the F-111 and got the same thing, a white elephant wrought with cost overruns and an impressive airframe with an unimpressive maintenance record that could not really do anything expected of it very well.
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