California governor on drought: Climate change not a hoax 'We're dealing with it, and it's damn srs

msnbc.com ^ | 4/5/2015 | Joseph Neese

[SoCal Pubbie]

I never argued that wildfires aren’t a problem in California. Nor have I said there’s a lot of rain in California, or that there’s enough locally sourced fresh water for everyone who’s moved here. So let’s get that out of the way.

Now, your graphic is very colorful, and clearly shows that I was correct, and proves the majority of California is not a desert. Setting aside the fact that annual rainfall is not the complete definition of a desert, let’s look at that aspect for a moment.

“Generally deserts are defined as areas that receive an average annual precipitation of less than 250 mm (10 inches).”

-http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/d/desert.htm

Looking at the chart, and reading the key, it’s clear that only the RED and BRIGHT RED areas for that criteria. Since that quite obviously shows that less than half the State receives less than 10 inches of rain per year on average, then the majority of the State cannot be classified as a desert.

I might point out that that those wildfires at Camp Pendleton were only possible because more vegetation exists to provide fuel for the fire than would be found, say, in the Mojave Desert, but I won’t.

I also might point out that in 2004-2005 Los Angeles received 37.96 inches of rainfall, way more than a typical year in Athens. In fact, the average annual rainfall in Athens is 14.4 inches. Since 1877 Los Angeles has averaged 14.98. But I won’t mention those tidbits either.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Since 1877 Los Angeles has averaged 14.98. But I won’t mention those tidbits either."

Yeah, sounds like Greece. Have you ever been to Greece? If you had, you would know that Greece gets more than 14.98 inches of rain per year. You defeat your own arguments. Keep trying to dispute the plain old facts and twist what I said. I originally said a large majority of California is a desert. That is not meant to mean exactly more than 50% is "classified as a desert". You are the type of person that just likes to argue. My original argument that you seem intent on disputing is that a large majority of California is a desert and they are always going to have water problems there. It has nothing to do with man made climate change as Moonbeam would probably tell you.

As for Pendleton and vegetation? Yeah, if you had been there (or perhaps you have and are just trying to twist the point), then you would know that the vegetation you talk of is just a bunch of scrub brush that is found in a lot of desert areas. If it was lush vegetation and not dry scrub brush then it would not provide fuel for the fires.

[SoCal Pubbie]

I don’t like to argue. I do like facts. Athens is not Greece. Los Angeles is not California. Scrub brush does not mean desert. More than 50%= a majority.

I live here. Sorry but more than half of California is not a desert . That is simply a fact. If you look at population, where the water is actually used, it’s not even close.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"I don’t like to argue."

Oh, you certainly do. You wanted to disprove what I said about California having a large majority of desert. When I showed the stats of the rainfall you were shown to be wrong and I was shown to be correct. You have now come down to nitpicking. Oh, you do certainly love to argue...

[citizen352]

It would be interesting to see how many times endangered animals are put ahead of people. Like saving the Delta Smelt or the Spotted Owl. The EPA uses this tactic to stop economic or agricultural activity.