Posted on 03/30/2015 7:32:01 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Thank you for the ping, Dear FRiend.
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How close is her “grave” to the pond?
How close to a body of water are human remains legally permitted to be buried?
I think the answers to those questions will confirm the obvious. Terri’s ashes are not in her “grave.”
I have a relative who believes because the “polling” said Terri should die, it was okay to treat her like this. Is that picture with the quote from the lawyer a photo or a drawing? I am sending the article to this relative and I would like to know (to deflect the claim that the picture is a fake).
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Pieter, somewhere in my screed I said a cat was not a person.
I think maybe some of the decision making has to do with family tradition. As a child my dad had the vet euthanize one of my newly adopted cats who came from the shelter with incurable distemper. I was heartbroken either way but got over it and certainly didn't blame my dad. He always went the last mile to save our pets and didn't like killing anything actually. I didn't get a new cat for some time.
There is an anniversary article on ABC about Terri. We are in the minority. I remember at the time. We were accused of wanting to make her suffering go on and on and on.
The pope (JPII) gave guidance. Feeding tubes are not life support or extraordinary. Most else is. So you can disconnect someone from ventilators, etc., without incurring sin or is it that simple; other factors have to be taken into consideration? This is all relatively new. Some poor souls went on and on for years, put away to vegetate. But who has the right to kill them? They didn't have the means to extend lives in the past like they do now. But quality of life should not be the sole reason for a decision.
I think most of the people who want end of life, some are wanting to spare suffering, but a lot of it is about money one way or another.
But nothing is easy or straightforward in my world. Each case has to be dealt with on its own merits. I have read of a few cases from reliable sources that people considered brain dead turned out not to be and recovered.
The bottom line is you do your best to discern God's will but acknowledge that He is sovereign.
There was a lot more about the Schiavo case about motives, neglect, etc., that doesn't seem to matter to the commentators on ABC today. They are strictly pragmatic, don't want to be that way themselves (who does?). If the doctors say she had been blind and brain dead from the autopsy, there's no way I can figure I know better.
They are accusing Jeb Bush making a political move about Terri. Her father had written him an email imploring him to help. I do not believe Jeb was trying to score political points by interfering in the case. IIRC, he backed off in the end.
Most of these cases don't involve pure motives is a lot of the problem.
In the case of my beloved cats, one more than the other, I'll confess, I was torn. We didn't have vets give them shots years ago. We had to shoot them or drown them or some did worse ourselves to put them out of their misery. I could not kill my cat and am thankful God took her and the choice out of my hands. My son and a friend were mad at me for not having her put down. That's what you run into.
And some thought my sister and I did the wrong thing to have a feeding tube put into my aunt. One of her best friend was horrified. I don't really care at this point who thought what except God.
So with what I know now would I make the same decisions again? Yes but painfully. And when it's over, I would consider if it turned out to be the right thing.
This poor man. My heart goes out to him.
Terri’s ashes are not there at all. Marker,says I kept my promise.
I’ve never believed her ashes were there. I’m sure if he didn’t flush them down the toilet he found another way abuse her remains.
I would be interested in knowing what the laws are about burying human remains close to the water’s edge. If the spot he chose to claim as her grave is illegal for that purpose, maybe a judge could order her ashes exhumed and relocated. When they dig up the grave, and find nothing there, or maybe even something other than her remains buried by Michael as a deliberate insult, maybe he could be charged with that crime. Yeah, I know it’ll never happen. Just another crime to throw on the pile of crimes he committed.
In the article, Bobby said “ this image of my sister created from my memory.” He didn’t say how it was created, but I suspect the “memory” he refers to is the memory on a smart phone or digital camera. It looks to me like a digitally altered photo. JMHO
The cemetery gave him express permission to the put the marker very close to the water’s edge. Everybody in town was helping Michael spend Terri’s money. Sylvan Abbey Cemetery in Clearwater, FL.
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