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Likud officials blame Netanyahu for poor poll results
Haaretz ^ | Friday, March 13, 2015 | Jonathan Lis

Posted on 03/15/2015 3:57:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler

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To: onyx

I support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but it’s pretty clear he’s behind about three or four seats. Netanyahu today urged voters to vote for him in order to “close up the gap” ... to give him a chance to form the next government.

So, while I’ve always supported Netanyahu 100% and still continue to do so ... it’s very clear he’s in “very hot water” in regards to this election.


61 posted on 03/15/2015 9:01:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

RLY?
I think it’s clear as mud.


62 posted on 03/15/2015 9:02:53 PM PDT by onyx
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To: Star Traveler
Screw the Israeli's if they want to go the leftist route. They seem to think they know what's best for them, so let them go ahead and defend themselves after such an abhorrent decision.

If they want to go the route of attempting to appease the muzzie madmen by cowering in fear with such a decision, then they have chosen their fate and they can simply fade away into history as far as I'm concerned.

If the Israeli's are prepared to stand and fight with Bibi, then I am inclined to assist them in any manner possible.

If the Israeli's want to go down the path to annihilation by choosing cowards to lead their government, then I have no inclination to assist them with their choice of national suicide.

63 posted on 03/15/2015 9:05:01 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: onyx

Israeli politics is “muddy” ... :-) ... but look at this ...

Final Knesset Jeremy Poll of Polls 2015 – Weekly Average #15/Final Prediction: Zionist Union 25, Likud 22, The Joint (Arab) List 12, Yesh Atid 12, Bayit Yehudi 12, Kulanu 9

Jeremy’s Knesset Insider
Your Israeli 2015 Election Center – Polls & Analysis
http://knessetjeremy.com/category/knesset/polls/

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And, when you listen to Netanyahu himself, asking for voters to help him “close up the gap” ... that tells you a lot.


64 posted on 03/15/2015 9:05:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Pox

Keep in mind that Israel was founded by leftists in 1948 and the leftists fought wars for their survival. Israel has been governed by leftists for more of their existence than by the right.

SO ... I would not recommend cutting off aid to Israel if another leftist government gained control of Israel ... even though I think that Netanyahu would do better.


65 posted on 03/15/2015 9:08:31 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Those “voters” are nutz. Bibi is THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD, AND THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL KEEP ISRAEL SAFE.


66 posted on 03/15/2015 9:10:45 PM PDT by onyx
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To: Star Traveler

I don’t care who founded Israel. I don’t care to debate the current and past meanings of the ever fluctuating definition of the term “leftist”.

As far as I’m concerned, I don’t throw good money after bad. If the cowards in Israel want to govern, then they can do so without aid from the U.S.A., Get it?

I have absolutely no inclination to support yet another group of “dependents” who want more cash from my pocket yet insist that I have absolutely no say in how they want to govern themselves even though my aid helps keep their socialist ideology intact.

Do you understand the premise?


67 posted on 03/15/2015 9:14:21 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: onyx

It’s not “over” at the conclusion of the election, like it is here in the USA. So, sit back and relax while they play it out ... :-) ...

What you need to know about Israeli elections but were afraid to ask
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.646418


68 posted on 03/15/2015 9:16:31 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Pox

I’m thinking about the continuation of Israel as the Homeland for the Jews. They deserve their country especially after not being in control of their own land for so many years. And they also deserve to be safe and secure from the nations around them who are trying to destroy their homeland.

I can’t go down that track you’re talking about.


69 posted on 03/15/2015 9:20:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

haaretz is not a reliable source.
I think Bibi will win.


70 posted on 03/15/2015 9:24:16 PM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx

The link I gave you in Post #64 wasn’t Haaretz.


71 posted on 03/15/2015 9:25:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: onyx

AND ... maybe this will help you, although it’s the same thing as I gave above ...

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Israel Elections: Overview & Explanation
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Politics/elections.html


72 posted on 03/15/2015 9:30:06 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Tough Shiite! You sleep in the bed you make.

You only deserve something if you're ready, willing and able to fight to the death to keep that something intact.

The “leftist” cowards in Israel, and also the U.S., are not willing to provide for their own safe keeping and depend upon the generosity of others (government, foreign and domestic, if you comprehend my meaning) to sacrifice for their “well being”.

Enough is enough, be it in Israel or the U.S.A.

If you want my aid, you better be damned ready to stand fast and fight for your own life whether or not you receive assistance from others. If Israel is determined to cower and attempt to trade land for “peace” in the ludicrous hope that the muslims in the ME will simply let them be and not attack them or attempt to annihilate Israel (as many in that region are sworn to aspire to), then they have chosen to path of the coward and deserve to die a cowards death, and that includes not only the lefty individuals, but the moderates and right wingers who let themselves be “voted” onto the path of ultimate destruction.

I won't lose a moments sleep if Israel is annihilated due to the cowardly decisions it makes that put itself on the path to destruction.

You only “deserve” to be “safe and secure” if you stand your ground and do not follow the self destructive path of appeasement.

Historical reality.

If you want to be pussies, don't ask me to do your fighting for you when your back is against the wall. I'm done with that mentality.

73 posted on 03/15/2015 9:32:28 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Star Traveler
The attacks will not stop even if Netanyahu looses, or even dies.

I wonder if their voters have any idea about what they expect to get better.

74 posted on 03/15/2015 9:35:49 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Pox

That’s not going to be the position of the US Congress and neither is it going to be the view of the majority of the voters in the USA. You’re in an extremely small minority, in what you say. It will never happen as you say.


75 posted on 03/15/2015 9:36:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
And Israel would be foolish to believe what you just posted.

Two scenarios come to mind if Israel becomes an appeasing group of cowards:

Sooner or later, the backlash against the left in this country will swing the pendulum back to the right and those in this country who are sick and tired of socialist cowards who are dependent upon the rest of society for their existence will finally put their foot down and cut off aid, internal and external, to such parasites. By that time, if Israel heads down the path of appeasement, it may no longer exist anyways. If Israel continues to govern in a fashion that shows they are ready, willing and able to fight for their existence, with or without aid from their “best friend”, then aid will continue from the right in this country as that mentality is what “My Extremely Small Minority” aspires to. If they go the opposite direction, they will suffer their cowardice as they deserve, and those in this country will not be happy about it, but they will no longer have the stomach to support the cowards you seem to so desperately crave to lead you.

or:

If the left in this country gains permanent power for several generations, Israel is doomed no matter what they choose to do as the left in the U.S. despise Jews, and that is an absolute fact. Even if the left is forced to support Israel due to internal politics, the left in this country will do everything possible to undermine Israel and will work to insure that Israel is permanently removed from all global maps, figuratively and literally. To believe otherwise is to ignore reality.

76 posted on 03/15/2015 9:49:57 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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The day when the USA doesn’t back and support Israel will be the day when Christians are no longer in the USA, having been removed. When THAT DAY comes around, then Israel will not receive support from the USA.

Before that day ... the USA will continue backing and supporting Israel.

You’ll know when that day is ... when a day comes when you cannot find any of the Christians who were here the day before.


77 posted on 03/15/2015 10:04:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

You must not be keeping up on current events in this country. Christians are being persecuted more and more and their beliefs are being ridiculed and in some instances, “outlawed”. The left is imposing their beliefs upon this country and Christians are being oppressed more and more on a daily basis.

This is not hyperbole, nor is it fiction.

Israel is in more danger than it likely understands, outside of those who actually are paying attention to current events and relating those current events to historical precedences.

To believe that support and backing from the US is inviolate is in direct contradiction to the actions of the current leftist administration and the support they have from those who voted them into power back in 2008.


78 posted on 03/15/2015 10:10:19 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

There will come a day when the Christians are not here in just one day ... but I don’t think that’s real soon yet, because a number of other things have to line up first.


79 posted on 03/15/2015 10:12:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Events have a way of spiraling out of control once a certain threshold has been crossed. There will be an ebb and flow of the general direction of the end game, but it may suddenly come upon us in short order with very little warning.

That is beside the point. Society is being directed towards socialism and ignorance, and that combination does not bode well for liberty and freedom in the world at large, not to mention Israel and the U.S.

The situation is dire and sooner or later world wide conflict will erupt and I’m of the opinion that Billions will die, and the Human race will be lucky to survive.

Apathy and cowardice are at the heart of our decline, and I see very few signs that the decline will reverse itself.


80 posted on 03/15/2015 10:17:40 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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