Posted on 03/10/2015 1:32:25 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
I am not going to play a shell game with the gope like the last 2 potus elections. I have no idea what the gope has on Walker, or when they plan on using it, but judging by past primaries that is their modus operandi. That is why it is only Cruz or Palin right now for me.
We must quickly start getting wiser to the gope strategy, or go 3rd party. Pick one.
That's right. And when it is your sworn enemy it is definitely lying.
To hell with wind subsidies and ethanol subsidies and sugar subsidies and cartel control, etc.
If these billionaires can’t compete then F them.
Thanks
Good grief, without a halo over his head and wings..so called Repub;licaans had better get over crucifying their CONSERVATIVE candidates or we will end up with Bush.
The only thing Walker has not done to the democrats is offer them up as a sacrifice.
When asked if he would support the Renewable Fuel Standard he just said no. And then he put out some hard truths which seemed to earn him the respect a difficult answer deserved. I recognize that this is a gathering of a lot of folks where the answer youd like me to give is Im for the RFS, darnit; thatd be the easy thing to do, he said. But Ill tell you, people are pretty fed up, I think, with politicians who run around and tell one group one thing, tell another group another thing, and then they go to Washington and they dont do anything that they said they would do. "
So no, not hardly "the exact same position on the issue that Sen. Cruz" has.
Oh, good grief. Save your hysteria for someone who gives a rip.
Just because Walker is your current flame doesn't mean everyone else has to blindly follow. Walker would have lost his recall without the help from the other 50 states. Yes, he did well taking on the teachers unions, and may have done a few conservative things in Wisconsin, but he is still a light-weight on the national stage. He may be able to pull it together in the coming months, but right now he is just getting a taste of the national media.
Even though Senators have historically been poor choices for presidential candidates, Cruz is no light-weight.
Walker will either get it together, or the media will continue chipping away until he withers into the ether. If he cannot articulate a consistently conservative message, outside of Wisconsin, he will get eaten alive. This show is just starting.
Again, you sound like a broken record and a fanatic, and are repeating the self same points you have been posting ad nauseum on every Scott Walker thread. Plus you refused to address any of the points I raised in my post including why you keep insisting it’s only a 2 way race between Scott Walker and Jeb Bush, despite evidence for the contrary from 8 years ago and 4 years ago GOP primaries, where Giuliani for example, was far ahead of everyone in the polls this time 8 years ago, and ended up winning not even a single primary.
This is one of the things he said;
Walker on ethanol, March 7, 2015
However, it is clear to me that a big government mandate is not the way to support the farmers of this state...
The free enterprise system must drive innovation to relieve our dependence on foreign oil, not mandates from the state or federal government.”
For some, it's enough. It seems to have become the latest litmus test with his detractors. Cruz is my first choice, but I won't jump the shark and make him the only egg in my basket until he's actually our candidate - per others here, that makes me a stupid RINO. One of these days, I'll tie half my brain behind my back and see what it feels like to be in their heads.
Both Cruz and Walker said the ethanol subsidies and mandates should be phased out.
Mince words however you want, but the same is the same.
Cruz is my first choice, and I plan to vote for him in the primary if he is on the ballot. But it’s foolish to run down the next best choice before we see if Cruz can make the cut.
“Cruz has introduced legislation that would repeal the renewable fuel standard over the next five years. The standard mandates that gasoline contain 10 percent ethanol by volume.”
http://www.votevets.org/press/ethanol-is-explosive-for-cruz-and-paul
The Cruz bill doesn’t repeal the mandate outright, it phases it out over 5 years, just like Walker said should happen.
I have to trust my instincts. He may be the guy but I’m not convinced yet... especially when he flip flops on something as straightforward as ethanol.
All you have is insults.
Who else has defeated democrats? No one . Well except Scott Walker. Walker has defeated democrats to pass conservative laws, lower taxes, balance the budget etc.
who else has defeated democrats?
Your harvard lawyer? when?
who has defeated democrats?
You are going to need to take a chill pill and stop foaming at the mouth. Who else has defeated Democrats? Ummm.. did you see the results of the 2014 elections? Republicans handed the Democrats their biggest defeats in nearly one hundred years at both the state and federal levels.
Talking about that “right to work” bill that Scott Walker just signed, other Republican governors and state legislatures have passed “right to work bills” over the last 5 years in other states. Scott Walker is a bit late to that party actually. Scott Walker is not the only man that has “defeated” Democrats is he?
And out of those RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT who has defeated democrats? No one . Only Scott Walker. Jeb bush, Christie and Huckabee helped democrats as these 3 are socialists who have grown government and gave illegals handouts. Rand and Cruz andSantorum, have not been able to defeat democrats. That leaves only Walker as the only conservative choice that created results, and has an unmatched record of conservative accomplishments
Same old nonsense huh?
You first shrilly insisted Scott Walker is the only one who has defeated Democrats, and when that was disproved, you now come up with even more rubbish that Scott Walker has defeated Democrats more than anyone, which is even more ridiculous?
Is this the same Scott Walker who failed to a push right to work bill while other GOP governors even in blue state Michigan had gotten right to work bills passed, and even then Walker’s only contribution was to simply sign the right to work bill after GOP state assemblymen had pushed and then passed the bill with zero contribution from Walker? Gimme a break!
and Beagle says: Cruz is my first choice, and I plan to vote for him in the primary if he is on the ballot. But its foolish to run down the next best choice before we see if Cruz can make the cut.
Jeb, Christie, Perry, Santorum, Huckabee, and their like, (who all confirmed that they would continue ethanol subsidies however reluctantly -- are zero threats in this primary, as they are all mostly interchangeable.
Walker -- who also confirmed that he'd continue ethanol subsidies (see link above), scares me because he is not so interchangeable with the above, and has the biggest potential to spoil it for Business as Usual -- GOPe choice. He is himself clearly willing to work with government as it is to "solve" at least a number of problems.
Erik, elsewhere, you wrote that you thought folks skeptical of Walker had little of "substance" to back up their doubts. Here is some, for example, in the link above. Ted Cruz was the ONLY guy who said, flat out, "No," when asked if he'd continue. Not "just for now until we can ease it out," but "No."
I know exactly where Ted Cruz stands on Obamacare -- he wants its full repeal. Where does Walker stand? Very much the same place he stands on ethanol -- that is, of being great at saying yes at the same time he says no.
I'm keeping my eye on the ball -- CRUZ. I wish even Walker's supporters would do the same and at least respect my motives for not joining them in their enthusiasm. I understand that their enthusiasm for Walker and hesitancy to embrace Cruz stem from sensible motives, though I may think their conclusions are in error.
It is very bad however, to think that a fellow conservative's motives spring from character weaknesses such as jealousy and hate, as one pro-Walker FReeper did on a thread recently, and which ardent Romney supporters, and ONLY Romney supporters, did with venom in 2008 and 2012. It is a bad mindset and is a warning, when one remembers that a candidate's ardent supporters speak volumes about the candidate.
If you ask me, Walker is poised to be the spoiler. Cruz is clearly the superior choice.
Cruz is my first choice, and I plan to vote for him in the primary ...
... that is, if he's still on the ballot and Cruz is not, correct? Or what if Cruz has dwindled by the time the primary comes to your state? Or if you're like me in California, your vote in the primary is merest vanity because the candidate has, for all intents and purposes, been fully decided after the rest have dropped out?
No. There's not room for both Cruz and Walker. There's only room for one, and THAT is how the primaries should be approached.
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