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"Ice is gaining in East Antarctica, where the air and water are cooler, but not nearly as much as it is melting to the west."

1 posted on 02/27/2015 1:29:26 PM PST by zeestephen
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The average summer high in Antarctica is nearly aways below 32deg.
The highest temp ever measured was 59deg in 1974.
Last time I checked, water still melts at 32deg.


42 posted on 02/27/2015 5:09:34 PM PST by Zathras
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Ah, I hesitate to bring this up, but it's summer in Antarctica now.
45 posted on 02/28/2015 8:11:23 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have freedom or government schools. Choose one.)
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what the article fails to mention is that the ice is melting due to geothermal reasons- as proven out by studies- that is an inconvenient truth that they are covering up.

And on a similar note-

I keep seeing the claim beign made concerning man’s insignificant contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere- a contributuion so small as to be3 practically zero 0.0015% of the total atmosphere to be exact-

“Please understand, even a small change in atmospheric conditions can have a massive impact.”

I keep seeing that claim being made- yet NO evidence to back it up- And how ‘small a change’ are you talking? a tiny fraction of our insignificant 0.0015%? How much of the heat trapped by that insignificant amount is making it back to earth?, and why do you folks NEVER show that actual heat being re-released and causing local changes? Once that heat gets back to earth- what % is it of ALL the molecules/volume of air below the atmosphere? 1 trillion’th of a percentage point? 100,000,00’th of a percentage point? 1,000,000? 1,000’th of a percentage point? You can’t just make the claim that “Small changes can have big effects” and walk away- you MUST back up your claim with hard verifiable proof!

I keep hearing ‘even a small change can be catastrophic’ Yeah? How small? Where’s the evidence? The only thing they really have is “It has become warmer recently... man produces CO2... CO2 ‘can absorb and back radiate heat”... therefor man must be causing climate change!” -

We can just as easily claim “Man lights matches... Matches heat up the surrounding air molecules... “Therefore man must be causing climate change!” Unless I can show the actual heat from all the lit matches ‘causing GLOBAL temperatures to rise’ My claim is meaningless- Unless I can show you thermal evidence showing that temps are rising as a direct result of matches being lit, then my claim is useless- Show us the heat making it back to earth- show us the heat being re-released and causing the surrounding temperatures to rise as a DIRECT RESULT of that heat being released- Simply stating that “Russia was warmer this year, therefore man must be responsible” isn’t going to cut it- Show that tons of heated molecules are being back radiate to Russia and show it being released, and show it directly influencing the surrounding air-

“A small change in the atmosphere can have profound effects’ isn’t an effective argument unless you can show beyond a shadow of a doubt that your claim is actually true- The fact is that the3 amount of man caused CO2 is so small that it is insignificant- and for you to claim that a small amount ‘can have a large effect’ is no more valid than me to claim that someone smoking a cigarette across a parking lot for a few puffs ‘caused the person clear across the lot to get cancer later in life” I could just as easily claim “Cigarettes cause cancer, someone I n the general area smoked a cigarette one day-, therefore that person caused this person’s cancer” Really? Show us the actual scientific evidence that particles from that very cigarette invaded that person’s body, and changed that person’s cells- otherwise the claim is false and unethical- accusing the smoker of a terrible thing without ANY actual proof other than ‘cigarettes cause cancer, therefore your cigarette caused this person’s cancer”


47 posted on 02/28/2015 10:11:25 AM PST by Bob434
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According to satellite imagery, in 2014 the extent of the Antarctic ice was at an all-time high.

 

Source: http://earthsky.org/earth/while-arctic-sea-ice-declines-in-2014-antarctic-sea-ice-increases

54 posted on 03/01/2015 11:46:11 PM PST by Gideon7
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