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Why We Don’t Have Battery Breakthroughs
Technology Review ^ | February 10, 2015 | Kevin Bullis

Posted on 02/11/2015 5:10:39 AM PST by thackney

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To: thackney
"Fluke" is a common noun:

"Hey, Mac! I need a fluke and a pair of dykes ..."

101 posted on 02/11/2015 2:57:14 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

Sure, right after I get this nipple screwed into the peckerhead....


102 posted on 02/11/2015 3:04:56 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Moonman62

Clearly, the most plausible scenario ...


103 posted on 02/11/2015 4:24:19 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: AceMineral
Well surely by “Star Trek the 20th Generation” we will simply be able to think it into existence.
104 posted on 02/11/2015 5:39:05 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: RayChuang88

I believe that the Chinese still require their kids to learn math WITHOUT calculators - so yea, I would worry about them.


105 posted on 02/11/2015 6:04:40 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: Steely Tom

It could have been just starting up or capacity to handle 2 MRIs(1.5 Teslas and 3.0 Tesla MRI’s where Popular almost 10 years ago, in Europe some places had a 9 Tesla from what one director told me (that is a huge magnetic field)) at once but since one future room that was there was empty, it could have just been engineered for two since the cost of upgrading would no doubt have been expensive plus electrical shut downs during up grading. They did leave the magnets on in a stand by mood. The chillers that where used where always running (using helium so that probably helped keep the electrical usage down except for the start up spikes) and some had city water as a bypass in case it failed which sometimes it did if something went wrong with the chillers and say good by to the cryogen (helium) as it would be vented which cost in the 10s of thousand of dollars to replace. The facility wasn’t happy about that.

Now you know why MRI’s are not that cheap and they try to schedule them one after the other to maximize use.


106 posted on 02/11/2015 8:17:42 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: thackney
including emissions of carbon dioxide from burning gasoline

Mass psychosis. They are batteries (including overhead weight) that require charging and efficiency losses from other sources. The solution for energy security and diversity is already here. Dual fuel vehicles with NG tanks.

Madness.
107 posted on 02/11/2015 9:51:00 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: MileHi

“I do miss the old Simpsons though.”

Sigh, dropped mine off a ladder onto a cement floor. Remember it like it was yesterday. What a champ.


108 posted on 02/11/2015 10:15:29 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: onedoug

I don’t think anybody is discounting source pollution from charging electric cars, but electric motors are so much more efficient than had burners they just use much less energy per mile inherently reducing pollution and if they are getting the electricity from a nuke plant or a hydro plant, so much the better


109 posted on 02/12/2015 1:05:18 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Usagi_yo

Untrue. Electric motors can be more than 90 percent efficient compared to the 25 percent efficiency of a gasoline engine. (that’s why the Tesla can travel almost 300 miles on the same amount of energy that would go into three and a half gallons of gasoline). if you’re getting that energy from a natural gas power plant which can run at its ideal efficiency 24 hours a day then you’re still much more efficient per mile at the end of the day and if you put gasoline into your tank.


110 posted on 02/12/2015 1:23:58 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: ExCTCitizen

Get out your check book, the Tesla Model X will do just that, except it seats 7. Although in all fairness, most of the gas cars I’ve owned wouldn’t tow a 23’ boat. Just never had a need to pay for that capability


111 posted on 02/12/2015 1:30:18 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: envisio

of course the problem with gasoline engines is that you put 1 into it and you get only .25 out. About 75 percent of the energy generated in an internal combustion engine is lost in the form of waste heat and vibration whereas electric motors can achieve 90 percent efficiency.


112 posted on 02/12/2015 1:34:45 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: The Great RJ

Or, you could pull into one of the growing number of DC quick chargers, which are free in Tesla’s case, and top of in less than 30 minutes. This essentially let’s you drive 500 miles with one 30 minute break. And remember, with an EV, you pull out of your garage with a full tank every morning. And while charging may still take longer than filling up your tank with gasoline you have to also remember that it’s free in many cases and even when you have to pay its only a fraction of the cost of putting the equivalent amount of gasoline in your car.


113 posted on 02/12/2015 1:42:10 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: central_va

DC quick Chargers will allow you to recharge in less than 30 minutes now and remember with electric vehicles you pull out of the garage every morning with a full tank so you only need to rely on public charging stations on long trips also remember with Tesla the super chargers are always free and even the DC quick chargers that are not free are very cheap compared to gasoline on a per model basis right now I Drive a large gasoline burning SUV and if somebody told me I can wait for 20 minutes and fill up for free or a couple of dollars instead of by waiting 5 minutes for a $50 fill up at a regular gasoline pump I would take the 20 minutes everyday.


114 posted on 02/12/2015 1:53:48 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Tell that to the Tesla Model S P85D that does 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds and will travel almost 300 miles on a charge. right now capacitors simply aren’t energy dense enough. companies like EESTOR have been promising capacitor breakthroughs as long as I can remember. if they ever do solve the problem then capacitors would enable super quick recharging. however even with battery technology you can recharge at 300 mile range Tesla and less than 30 and it looks like much faster DC quick chargers are just around the corner. but having a large 25 percent efficient gas engine as an onboard generator is not the solution


115 posted on 02/12/2015 2:03:19 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Steely Tom

Current DC quick chargers allow you to add over 200 miles of range in about 20 minutes and in the case of Tesla’s you don’t pay anything for that. Yes that’s still slower than filling up with gas. But with Tesla its free. 5 minute fill up for 50 bucks, vs 20 minutes for free. And don’t forget with an EV you wake up with a full tank each day.


116 posted on 02/12/2015 2:10:46 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: The Great RJ
This might not be a problem if you are driving to work and can recharge there,...

Until you get a call and your kid is having a medical emergency at school...

117 posted on 02/12/2015 2:16:12 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: xp38

IIRC, based on a late 70s Lincoln chassis...


118 posted on 02/12/2015 2:20:41 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Moonman62
Why should that be so hard? Have power cut-offs on the vehicle and the battery where it couples in. Standardize the contact interface (plug in) in the vehicle and make it a fixed plug/socket. Have a battery 'tray' which permits a forklift to pick up the battery. An access door in the side could allow the dead battery to be removed, open the door, unlock the old battery (after shutting off the power switches on the car and the battery to prevent arcing), slide out the battery tray, remove and replace the battery, slide the new battery in on the tray and lock it down, switch the power on (both switches) and close the access door.

Off to the commute...

It shouldn't take any longer than changing a tire.

119 posted on 02/12/2015 3:03:58 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

1950s show car called the Lincoln Futura. It actually was part of the plot to a movie called It Started With a Kiss (1959) starring Glen Ford and Debbie Reynolds. Lots of scenes with it in it. It could be retitled the Batmobile goes to Spain. :)


120 posted on 02/12/2015 3:17:02 AM PST by xp38
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