The American Sniper Was No Hero

Reason Magazine ^ | January 29, 2015 | Sheldon Richman

[kenmcg]

Sheldon Richmon???? No question where this commie, socialist, Marxist, liberal puke is coming from.

[Durus]

”Iraq did not invade America or attack Americans”.
He certainly did attack Americans, so much so that the media started to mostly ignore it just like the Clinton administration did. After the first Gulf War Iraq and the US entered into a cease fire agreement. This included continuing sanctions and a "No Fly" zone that would be monitored by coalition air craft. Iraq regularly took shots at these planes, a clear violation of the cease fire agreement and justification of immediate force. Clinton didn't want to mess with it and let it go, which served to embolden our enemy. (Yes I said enemy)

”Dictator Saddam Hussein never even threatened to attack Americans”.
Yes he did, constantly and loudly to anyone that would listen. Not only did he threaten the USA, as afore mentioned, broke the terms of a cease fire agreement and literally attacked US planes.

”Contrary to what the George W. Bush administration suggested, Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001”.
It was actually media scum that did this. Classic straw-man argument.

”Before Americans invaded Iraq, al-Qaeda was not there”.
Yes they were, they were training there along with any number of other terrorist organizations.

”The only reason Kyle went to Iraq was that Bush/Cheney & Co. launched a war of aggression against the Iraqi people”.
”Wars of aggression, let's remember, are illegal under international law”.
As opposed to non-aggressive wars? The very term "war of aggression" is a made up liberal term that has no real meaning and certainly isn't against "international law" whatever that is supposed to be.

”Nazis were executed at Nuremberg for waging wars of aggression”.
No, that is not why they were executed.

”Eastwood's movie also features an Iraqi sniper”.
It was a Syrian sniper who came there specifically to kill the "great Satan" (Americans). That you missed this point only accentuates your ignorance and complete lack of reason on this subject.

”Kyle was a hero because he eagerly and expertly killed whomever the government told him to kill”?
Another point that you missed. He was a hero because of the people he saved, not the people he killed.

”Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School”.
Then you have gone beyond being an unreasonable person with a poor understanding of facts to being bat sh*t insane.

[montag813]

Libertarians are scum. Reason Magazine endlessly pimps for Obama’s executive amnesty and open borders

[Wheelman81]

This illustrates why I left the Libertarian Party after the 9/11 attacks. I still share many of their concerns about the economy and social issues, but as for those who would strike at America: I want them dead! Rhetoric like that shown above can only further marginalize their cause.

I still feel it was right to topple Saddam—he was our puppet and he was running amok. I think we were unprepared for what would happen afterward, and in their usual fashion our “leaders” screwed it up. I cringe at being labeled “war weary.” I’m weary of spineless politicos.

Short of another catastrophic attack, I don’t know what will wake enough of the electorate up to change this disastrous course we have taken. For myself, I intend to support the candidate with the most hawkish foreign policy. Screw free community college... fund the armed forces properly and turn them loose!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Iraq did not invade America or attack Americans.***

USS STARK. 37 US sailors dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_incident

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Can someone find and post the Baghdad billboard showing Saddam Hussein gloating over the twin towers burning?

[2ndDivisionVet]

He wasn’t so much our “puppet” as he was a counterweight or cats-paw against the recently radicalized Islamic regime in Iran. I was there for that ball game, so do not doubt me.

[NorthMountain]

I think we were unprepared for what would happen afterward, and in their usual fashion our “leaders” screwed it up.

Our 'leaders' believe in democracy as universal good. In doing so, they commit a fundamental error. Democracy is only as good as the electorate. Good people will elect good leaders. Decadent people will elect decadent leaders. Islamic fanatics will elect islamic fanatics. The collapse of Iraq into squabbling islamic nuttiness was entirely predictable.

[eddiespaghetti]

Excellent!

[NTHockey]

I and many others here served in the military to preserve his right to say whatever he wants.

Sorry I did, in this case.

[editor-surveyor]

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More of (un)Reason’s endless blather!

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[2CAVTrooper]

Two words

Salman Pak

[editor-surveyor]

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To be perfect, you needed Obama’s son Travon in your list!

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[rhoda_penmark]

You’re just preaching to the choir here. Why not post comments on the site of the stupid article itself? :-)

[infowarrior]

I still feel it was right to topple Saddam—he was our puppet and he was running amok.

"Our puppet"? Proof of *that* assertion?

the infowarrior

[2CAVTrooper]

1991 cease fire agreement:
http://fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

Update on Iraq’s compliance:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/crs/Crsiraq2.htm

Both of these prove that little Shelly hasn’t got a clue about Iraq.

[Durus]

Because this is the forum I choose to participate on. Why are you suggesting people leave FR to go to another site?

[2CAVTrooper]

Uh the NSA program was around a lot longer than 2001.

[2CAVTrooper]

Here is one for Ramadi:
http://projects.militarytimes.com/citations-medals-awards/recipient.php?recipientid=307606

[JimRed]

Americans were not occupiers, but liberators, then allies of the newly freed Iraqi people against the depraved SAVAGES, who were murdering Iraqis by the bushel.

For which the folks in Iraqi Kurdistan thanked us in radio, TV and print ads.