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Farms can be held liable for pollution from manure: U.S. court
Yahoo News ^ | 1/17/15 | Ayesha Rascoe- Rueters

Posted on 01/17/2015 4:05:36 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

We ain’t seen nothing yet!!

We are still going through judges appointed by Clinton and Bush with this kind of Bullshit.

Wait till the second wave ten years from now when judges appointed by Obama start coming out.


61 posted on 01/17/2015 5:43:59 PM PST by bakeneko
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To: NormsRevenge

Ain’t it lovely being ruled by people who think their food comes from the grocery store?


62 posted on 01/17/2015 5:48:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: maine-iac7

I have been on a working diary with 1000 head on it and was 6 total acres. Had a feed barn, an exercise round, a milking barn, fermenting pits and settling ponds for manure. Each barn and the exercise round held 1/3 of the herd. The feed barn had a trough behind the animals, which tend to defiicate while they eat.

A big water tank would fill, release and wash the manure into a series of settling ponds. The ponds were drained and cleaned out periodically with a front end loader. The manure the. was sold to the corn farmers who raised the feed corn.

The feed was kept in a covered pit to ferment a while before being used, to ease digestion. The cows were milked 3 times a day and produced 2 gallons per milking. They would produce for about 3 years after calving, would calve twice then “retire” to become hamburger.

Stood in the middle of this big circle in the heat of Texas summer...no flies...no smell. Amazing.


63 posted on 01/17/2015 5:57:51 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: NormsRevenge

Let’s find out if fat-ass federal clown bureaucrats are willing to die for the glory of fascist federal judges.


64 posted on 01/17/2015 6:01:13 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Balding_Eagle

“This doesn’t seem to be an authentic agricultural process. It reads like the dairy was dumping waste on the fields. Regardless, what’s the use of food if you poison the water.
A warning to you:

Idiots don’t last long at FR. You’ve just joined in the last month.

Post more moronic nonsense and you’re gone before the end of next week. JR doesn’t tolerate fools very well. “

Well, I have been here a while and may I say, he has a point. You certainly can take waste from a dairy or feed lot and mess up a lot of stuff.

That said, I’m not a fan of another law of any sort. Also, I believe all environmentalists are socialists. If they were able to prove real damages, they should have been in civil court, which is where this is likely headed. Also, areas that have been stripped mined have been rejuvenated by excessive applications of manure. In other words, there is no hard and fast rule about what is too much.

You are also right that the mutual admiration society also know as Free Republic doesn’t tolerate much descent, but it also isn’t nice to call someone names.


65 posted on 01/17/2015 6:09:18 PM PST by rey
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To: Regal

Go visit and Amish farm, they will show you how it’s done. The daughter had a team of three mules pulling a “honey wagon”, while she broadcasted the stable manure in her bare feet.

This is the REAL WORLD, Regal.


66 posted on 01/17/2015 6:11:20 PM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

As a previous dairy farmer, cows are measured by lbs per milking not gallons. Equating 8lb/gal, and the 3x per day you mentioned this would be extremely average to low producing cows and they could NOT milk for 3 years, they would go dry on their own. Come again?


67 posted on 01/17/2015 6:11:46 PM PST by conservativesister
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To: conservativesister

Maybe it was 3 gallons per milking. But I do remember what they told me about the milk production time being 3years after the year the calved. Of course, I was just taking the tour; maybe they lied to me.

My personal diary experience was at an old school diary with grazing/hay fed cows that were hand milked until a small entry level milking machine was acquired. Never more than 100 head.


68 posted on 01/17/2015 6:19:02 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Revel

WRONG THIS IS NOT AN AWSOME DECISION. This is a decision that is most ridiculous that I heard recently. The farmers are not the ones that created liquid manure and made in manditory in most states. Let alone in MD where you have all run off from the barn roofs into the pit. AND in MD you can only put the manure out at certain times! Imagine telling the cows you can’t shi! today, only tomorrow the government said so! This whole mess was created by some book-learned, degree-toting idiot that has never been on a farm, has no common sense and has never seen a cow take a shi!.


69 posted on 01/17/2015 6:22:36 PM PST by conservativesister
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To: NormsRevenge

Appointed by Jug Ears, and you are shocked?


70 posted on 01/17/2015 6:32:49 PM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: NormsRevenge

Appointed by Jug Ears, and you are shocked?


71 posted on 01/17/2015 6:34:12 PM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: digger48

That would be 25 gallons a day per cow.

25 X 11,000 X 365 days==100,375,000 gallons


72 posted on 01/17/2015 6:38:51 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: TaMoDee
"Next up, EPA issues reg holding all wildlife responsible for pooping in the woods -—— Yogi and BooBoo not happy!"


73 posted on 01/17/2015 6:52:46 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: NormsRevenge

A small family dairy in my area was recently fined $75,000 when the rain washed some cow poop into a nearby river.


74 posted on 01/17/2015 6:56:10 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: PLMerite

LOL! I’ll believe ‘that’ Yogi would have to find a nearby USFS outhouse, The nice little BooBoo would never get near the woods. Still LOL’en.


75 posted on 01/17/2015 6:58:09 PM PST by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack is back is 2015!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Actually, isn’t there a microbial ecosystem in each pile of dung that needs to be protected?


76 posted on 01/17/2015 7:23:40 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: W.
We have got to start holding people in positions of power accountable for their stupid ideas!

So fill out a complain with the corrupt"Two-Party Cartel". Who's gonna answer your complaint? We have lost this country. Get used to it.

77 posted on 01/17/2015 7:26:38 PM PST by Digger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So the bureaucrats want us to starve? How is this different from the Soviet Union under Lenin or Stalin?”

Well, it isn’t. A shocking number of people in this country can’t afford to feed themselves, apparently. More than 50% of public students get food in school. OF course, what has been given can be taken away...


78 posted on 01/17/2015 7:45:35 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Revel

-—Regardless of the majority here that think that being conservative means a license to destroy ground water, and damage people in the process.-—

That is a posting which has the echoes of a very liberal thought process in it. We here want to conserve a clean environment, but we are constantly assaulted with environmental nazis that want to have a cleaner than natural environment and stomp out all economic activity and ultimately reduce the numbers of polluting humans. I have worked in industry where the emissions were literally required to be cleaner than natural rainwater.

You may applaud the decision but I live in a dairy producing area and I’d like to know a lot more about the actual impact of farms like this before unleashing more greedy lawyers and enviro lawfare profiteers. Balancing this with the possibility that 10 years from now, the enviro-nazis will have individually sued every productive, intensive farm out of business, causing the price of milk ‘to necessarily skyrocket’.


79 posted on 01/17/2015 7:49:27 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Most of the rest of the world would give their right arm to be in their place.


80 posted on 01/17/2015 7:53:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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