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Here's where 16 potential presidential candidates stand on (homosexual) marriage
Time ^ | 1/7/2015 | Tessa Berenson

Posted on 01/07/2015 11:16:53 PM PST by NetAddicted

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To: NetAddicted

Why would anybody post anything from Time much less read it.


21 posted on 01/08/2015 5:52:58 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: NetAddicted

I see it as further evidence of the precipitous decline of our country that ANYONE considers Martin O’Malley a potential presidential candidate.


22 posted on 01/08/2015 5:58:47 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: OneWingedShark

The state does define “legal” marriage.

If you want a religious/private marriage that the state doesn’t recognize you could always do that, today, a 100 years ago 200 years, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could have done that.

Muslims, Mormons, animists, gays, Christians, Satan Worshipers, atheists, anyone can have their own private marriages if they don’t care about it being legal.


23 posted on 01/08/2015 7:18:34 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Look at the issues surrounding accepting Utah into the Union. It required they ban polygamy. The marriage issue has been a federal and a state issue for a very long time.

intrastate commerce has also been a federal issue for a very long time, but that doesn't mean that it rightly is one.

I know a little about it — some of it was a very bad deal: like stripping the immunity of spouses from being compelled to testify against the other.
(In short, it's an interesting example of the usurpation of powers by the federal government.)

24 posted on 01/08/2015 7:53:08 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ansel12
The state does define “legal” marriage.

I'm far more comfortable with a state than a federal definition (the federal constitution is explicit in stating that the federal government only has the powers explicitly delegated thereunto)… but that doesn't invalidate my point: once you allow government to define marriage, you also allow them the power to define it in manners unacceptable to you. (i.e. once you accept that it's in their power to do so, you can't cry foul! when they exercise that power/authority and define it to also include homosexual marriage.)

If you want a religious/private marriage that the state doesn’t recognize you could always do that, today, a 100 years ago 200 years, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could have done that.

The states did recognize that sort of marriage 100 and 200 years ago — part of it had to do with frontier territories where the government was essentially non-extant.

Muslims, Mormons, animists, gays, Christians, Satan Worshipers, atheists, anyone can have their own private marriages if they don’t care about it being legal.

And therein lies the problem: far too much has been relegated to the [State's] legal sphere.
The law does nothing to address the issues of the heart.

25 posted on 01/08/2015 8:00:37 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

You need to quit playing games, government decides “legal” marriage, if you don’t care if your marriage, then ignore the government.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson wanted their marriages to be legal, so they made sure that they were legal by meeting government requirements.

You don’t seem to know that Thomas Jefferson had a marriage license, or that Washington himself paid for the marriage license for his favorite nephew, and you don’t seem to know these things although I know that you have been told them over and over.

There is also marriage law at the federal level, and ALWAYS HAS BEEN, since the Continental Congress, ALWAYS.

Today the feds still have to make decisions regarding marriage law in the military, for federal employment, in foreign policy and in immigration.

If you aren’t interested in a “legal” marriage, then ignore having one, just have your own individual marriage.

Washington and Jefferson wanted the government to recognize their marriages, but you don’t want your recognized, go ahead, no one is forcing you to make it legal.


26 posted on 01/08/2015 8:19:32 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: ansel12
Washington and Jefferson wanted the government to recognize their marriages, but you don’t want your recognized, go ahead, no one is forcing you to make it legal.

Were those State licenses, or Federal?
I've already said that I'm far more comfortable with State definitions than Federal, though that's not to say that I find that to be the most desirable solution.

27 posted on 01/08/2015 10:08:57 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Originally they both earned state recognition of their marriage, in Washington’s case, his marriage also became recognized by the federal government, when he became part of the military.

If you don’t want your marriage to be government approved no one is forcing you to do that, but we conservatives want to preserve marriage, and allowing the left to entirely control marriage law is not a real strategy, it sounds like a fifth column argument for the left and gay marriage.


28 posted on 01/08/2015 10:20:50 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: UB355

Well, I read something like 75% of NY Timers are homosexuals, but never heard anything about Time.


29 posted on 01/09/2015 12:17:12 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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