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Anatomy of a Failed Coup: Boehner’s opponents were slow and uncertain.
National Review ^
| 01/07/2015
| Joel Gehrke
Posted on 01/07/2015 7:29:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The act like they are in high school.
Seriously, we are f%^&ing doomed.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:07:15 AM PST
by
Noamie
To: SeekAndFind
Time to give up the delusion of trying to work within the Republican Party.
Time to go UKIP.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:09:28 AM PST
by
dfwgator
To: BubbaJunebug
It’s time for the Republican Party to officially die.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:10:05 AM PST
by
Artcore
To: SeekAndFind
Please forgive a touch of a "vanity post", but I'm still reeling from Tom McClintock's (R-CA), until yesterday an impeccably strong member of the conservative minority in the House, vote yesterday. I sent him a follow-up note this morning:
Dear Mr. McClintock:
I write again to express my disappointment in your failure to stand in support of the conservative members of the Republican caucus during yesterday's floor vote for House Speaker.
Although you may have protected your personal political interests through your support of Mr. Boehner, it remains to be seen whether as House majority leader our (yours and my) shared conservative principles and commitment to the U.S. Constitution and traditional American values will be advanced under his thusfar ineffective leadership and his obvious antipathy toward conservative members of the caucus (including you) and his repeated disregard for the conservative base. (The actions of Mr. Boehner against those conservatives who voted against him and the smile on Ms. Pelosi's face when Mr. Boehner was, with your support, re-elected as Speaker provide clear evidence of my concern and lack of confidence in Mr. Boehner.)
Notwithstanding my disappointment I do wish you continued good health and, so far as it does not conflict with your publicly-avowed and demonstrated commitment to conservative principles as did your vote yesterday, continued success in the new House. I ask that you bear in mind, Mr. McClintock, the action of the Republicans in the House to retain Mr. Boehner as Speaker conflicts directly with the wishes of a large majority of Republican and conservative voters to turn the Congress to a more conservative direction, as demonstrated clearly in polls, surveys and the results of the November 2014 election.
Respectfully,
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:12:16 AM PST
by
glennaro
To: SeekAndFind
“By starting the fight on the House floor, McClintock argued, conservatives risked creating a scenario in which they ended up with a more liberal House speaker”
More liberal? At least it confirms that Boehner is liberal.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:15:07 AM PST
by
EQAndyBuzz
(I'm from the Soylent Corporation and I am here to help.)
To: SeekAndFind
Any vote that is not done with a secret ballot is illegitimate.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:27:20 AM PST
by
BubbaBasher
("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
To: BenLurkin
coup
ringleaders
What is this ChiCom news?
The Gang of 25!
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:32:32 AM PST
by
Deo volente
(God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
To: SeekAndFind
We can and should learn from this. Boehner was re-elected with less than a majority of the whole House, a minor point that should be annoyingly repeatedly thrown at him. He, alas, really did have a majority, they just didn't all vote. There were 5 non-voting GOP members: Boehner himself (Speakers traditionally rarely cast votes), John Carter (TX), Trey Gowdy (SC), Alan Nunnelee (MS), Don Young (AK). I strongly suspect all 5 would have voted for Boehner had they voted. Brian Babin (TX) voted present, a weak move suggesting Boehner could have rolled him if needed. And of the 24 named non-Boehner GOP votes, one by Chris Gibson (NY) was cast for Leader Kevin McCarthy. That's far from a reliable anti-leadership vote. So Boehner likely could have gotten 223 votes from the present 246 member GOP caucus and will probably pick up another when the pending NY special election occurs. So if all seats are occupied, and all vote, we need Boehner to make another 7 GOP members mad enough to vote against him. And that 'all vote' shouldn't be taken for granted. The 20 non-voting Democrats functionally cast 10 votes for Boehner at no cost to themselves nor to Boehner. Most were attending the funeral of Mario the Pious in NY. That's a legit excuse, but who conveniently scheduled the funeral in conflict with this legally mandated vote and did they consider the consequences? Andrew Cuomo certainly could figure the political effects of his dad's funeral's timing.
I've seen it said that a vote to change the Speaker can happen at any time, but I don't know the real world mechanics of that. I bet it's historically rare. That conceded, it is a plausible future action with this Speaker and this electorate. But before pulling that trigger they need to be sure they have enough more votes to prevent 218 GOP votes for Boehner AND a sufficient cushion to handle lower 'majorities' d/t any Democratic 'sickouts' etc.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:37:21 AM PST
by
JohnBovenmyer
(Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
Remain steadfast and vigilant, FRiends. The GOP-e and Left crave Conservative despair and disenfranchisement.
We’ve made progress in recent election cycles.
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:41:05 AM PST
by
Gene Eric
(Don't be a statist!)
To: Resolute Conservative; SeekAndFind
The state of Ohio could take care of that likewise what happened to the whip!!!
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posted on
01/07/2015 8:44:35 AM PST
by
danamco
(-)
To: SeekAndFind
It was a set up to bash the patriots/constitutionalists, and I’d wager 0bama knew about it, too.
To: SeekAndFind
They knew they were fighting a losing battle
The pricks in conservative media are out in force
The Five, Hewitt, Bennett, laughing at scoffing at the futility of pretending boehmite isn’t a conservative and how good he’ll finally be now that, what? I don’t know. They’re not clear on that. Then screeching re he’s not vindictive and wouldn’t punish anyone for voting against him
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01/07/2015 9:11:19 AM PST
by
stanne
To: george76
Representative Ken Buck (R., Colo.), who took office this morning, said that the rebels made it harder for freshman lawmakers to oppose Boehner by waiting so long to go public with the fight. If this effort was going to be successful, it would have had to start in November, and it had to be an effort that included the freshman class, Buck, who also voted for Boehner, told NRO. A lot of the freshman class never received any phone calls from anybody, and that put us at a disadvantage.
Poor Ken, they didn't tell him what to do soon enough. What, has he been in a frickin' coma the last six years? Even Lamborn turtled to save his spot in the good ol' boys club.
{{{spit}}}
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posted on
01/07/2015 9:18:52 AM PST
by
MileHi
(Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
To: SeekAndFind
This is the best we can elect? a bunch of hand winging sniveling wimps.
We are so screwed.
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posted on
01/07/2015 9:19:20 AM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
To: SeekAndFind
Feeling the heat. The Gelded Old Pansies have Whigged out.
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posted on
01/07/2015 9:58:44 AM PST
by
VRWC For Truth
(Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
To: SeekAndFind
Anatomy of a Failed Coup: Boehners opponents were slow and uncertain.
Not really, it is more the image of the Republican Party. Add to it weak, gutless and scared.
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posted on
01/07/2015 10:16:41 AM PST
by
JayAr36
(Old enough to remember when this was a free country.)
To: SeekAndFind; Jim Robinson
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To: SeekAndFind
Sounds like some Rinos trying to cover their ass for defying the overwhelming majority of the Republican party in voting to reconfirm a backstabbing failure as speaker.
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