Posted on 01/04/2015 12:23:16 AM PST by WhiskeyX
Huff Post’s articles about Jeff Epstein from years back.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/jeffrey-epstein/
Thanks for the link...
Now I have to go take a shower....ugh.
A ‘frightfully naive’ response, if I may say so, to the comments of somebody who, unlike anybody else on this thread, is very well acquainted with the individual involved and the circumstances in which he conducts his life.
If you understand the reasons, it makes a lot of sense.
Though Harry is higher up the succession than his Uncle Andrew, his Uncle actually is actually senior, 'outranking' him in the heirarchy of the Royal Family and in the British Order of Precedence (The Duke of York is fourth in the Order, Prince Harry is seventh). This is because he is the son of a sovereign as opposed to the grandson of a sovereign, and also because the Duke is a Royal Duke (and Harry is untitled in his own right) and though Harry now holds the higher position in succession (fourth as opposed to fifth), he's actually only ever been as high as third in line - whereas the Duke of York was second in line from his birth in 1960 until the birth of Prince William in 1982.
It also comes down to formal role - Harry is not a 'full time Royal' - he undertakes only a very limited number of official duties at present. The Duke of York is a full timer. He is also (along with the Prince of Wales) one of the two members of the Royal Family who routinely act as Counsellors of State, meaning they actually do exercise some actual power in the government of the UK (two Counsellors of State acting together have the power to carry out the constitutional duties of the Monarch if the Monarch is absent - they can preside over the Privy Council, and sign state documents, for example) - William and Harry, though they have both formally been Counsellors of State since they were 21, rarely exercise their roles, and the Duke of Edinburgh does so a lot less than he used to.
It's also a matter of wanting the protection. Prince Harry wants as little as possible, because he regards his protection detail as interfering with his life. The Duke of York on the other hand, regards having personal protection as appropriate to his status and knows if he refuses it, some people might try to take it off him.
Finally, it comes down to their ability to protect themselves. Harry has successfully argued that he is capable of providing a certain degree of his own protection, as he is trained in close combat as a soldier to a much greater degree than his uncle was as a sailor. He's also a lot younger and fitter.
Just because the media says they were, doesn't mean they were.
Understand that, you're not necessarily getting facts when you see gossip in the media.
Yes, and that choice disturbs me greatly - assuming it's accurate, which I don't necessarily assume. But it's a far cry from the other accusations.
OK, thank you for explaining
Well, I know you are having a hard time believing this stuff about your friend but...
The way it is known he was hanging with the guy after the sentence was served is because there’s a photo of them walking together in Central Park...
Maybe you should read up about all this on the net, decide what you want to believe, etc. instead of questioning the veracity of the reports here.
Just a suggestion.....
Kevin Spacey is on the pink team.
He would have needed a different sort of entertainer.
I am aware there has been contact between them. That doesn’t make them close friends. But even if they were at some stage, it’s a long way from that to other allegations.
I am aware of all the reports in the media. I’ve been checking them to see if they told me anything new (and on a few minor issues they have) I just also know more about it than just what is easily accessible in the media and the complications involved.
I won’t defend the Duke of York for everything he has done. Personally I think he should have ended contact with Epstein a lot earlier than he did. He’s certainly not a perfect person, he’s made some clangers at times - but the extremely serious accusations currently being made are completely at odds with the man I know.
I could just about believe him being involved with some of the less serious stuff - it would surprise me, but I wouldn’t dismiss it. The really serious stuff - it needs to be fully investigated, but I hope he comes out clean and would be very surprised if he didn’t.
“I also wouldn’t be expecting the Palace to be so strident in their denials unless they truly knew there wasn’t a case.”
Don’t know anything about this case, but when I read your comment I thought of Clinton’s very public denial of Monica..
Loyalty such as yours in a friend is admirable...
I hope he deserves it.
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