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Air Asia Flight Bound for Singapore Lost Contact with Air Traffic: Report
The Straight Times ^ | (Sunday) December 28, 2014

Posted on 12/27/2014 7:44:11 PM PST by kristinn

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To: Sarah Barracuda

Most storm related flight cancellation problems have to do with weather at airports, not weather in between.


241 posted on 12/27/2014 10:10:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That just strengthens my suspicion that lightning may have been the culprit. Hit in the right place and that’s all she wrote. They do all they can when they build planes to keep that from happening but they can only do so much.


242 posted on 12/27/2014 10:11:01 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: tsowellfan

“This is the MAJOR downfall for FoxNews.”

Are you serious? Do you think the base cares what happens in indofreakinasia? Besides after 11pm who watches TV?


243 posted on 12/27/2014 10:11:11 PM PST by sagar
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To: maggief
The aircraft had been flying at 32,000 feet and had asked to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid clouds

The higher altitudes put them closer to both their stall speed and overspeed mach number, a.k.a. puts them into a "coffin corner".

Smaller airpeed margin, less room for error in turbulence.

244 posted on 12/27/2014 10:11:30 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Rome2000

Sad...a lot of people lost.


245 posted on 12/27/2014 10:13:23 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: zipper

CNN weather guy was showing map and stating the turbulence and storm went upwards of 53,000 ft, so no way to avoid it.


246 posted on 12/27/2014 10:14:20 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: radu
I simply won’t get on a plane. No reason for it that I can pinpoint but I’d have to be knocked unconscious in order to be put on a plane. I get light-headed and queasy if I have to go to an airport

What, you don't think God can find you on the ground?

247 posted on 12/27/2014 10:18:21 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Oh so it has to do if the plane can actually land at that particular airport, and if its not safe then they will just cancel the flight..I understand now thanks


248 posted on 12/27/2014 10:18:35 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yes, we do hear about cancelled flights due to weather here often. I think it’s just one of those freaks of nature that brought this plane down and not any others in the area.


249 posted on 12/27/2014 10:21:20 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: zipper

The Sunday Shelf was all above sea level during the last Ice Age and the Java Sea averages 150 feet deep so this should bode well for the recovery effort.


250 posted on 12/27/2014 10:22:06 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: maggief

News5 AKSYON @News5AKSYON 1m1 minute ago

#QZ8501| ‘No possibility for missing flight to continue flying. Only had fuel for 4.5hrs’ - Indonesian officials


251 posted on 12/27/2014 10:22:49 PM PST by maggief
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To: PotatoHeadMick
several tons of highly explosive kerosene

Kerosene isn't explosive, but it will burn.

252 posted on 12/27/2014 10:23:23 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Oooooh, He can find me when he’s ready. But when He does, at least I’ll be where I was built to be. :-)


253 posted on 12/27/2014 10:24:36 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Kackikat
CNN weather guy was showing map and stating the turbulence and storm went upwards of 53,000 ft, so no way to avoid it.

That doesn't mean the entire sky is covered in thunderstorms up to 53,000 feet. They could be isolated, or embedded, or in a nearly solid line. At any rate radar can paint these storms very effectively, so they can be avoided (with a competent operator).

The weather is reported by air traffic control as "tops up to 53,000 feet"; "isolated area of thunderstorms with tops up to 53,000 feet", etc.

But for sure, if one has tops that high, it has severe turbulence within it.

254 posted on 12/27/2014 10:26:21 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Rockpile
Sunday Shelf------ #%^**#%¥€%<>##damn I hate spell check😫😫😫
255 posted on 12/27/2014 10:27:40 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: Rockpile
The Sunday Shelf was all above sea level during the last Ice Age and the Java Sea averages 150 feet deep so this should bode well for the recovery effort.

Good point, it took almost 2 years to recover AF447, mostly because of the deep crash site.

256 posted on 12/27/2014 10:28:35 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: maggief

AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Surabaya to Singapore is believed to have crashed at the location 03.22.46 South and 108.50.07 East, in waters around 145 kilometers from Belitung, a National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) official has said.

Basarnas Pangkalpinang spokesperson Supriandi said, as reported by Antara news agency on Sunday, that it had dispatched a rescue team to Belitung.

It is believed that the Airbus A320 had circled over the sea near Belitung to avoid a storm before it experienced severe turbulence and crashed into the ocean.

- See more at: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/12/28/airasia-plane-downed-belitung-waters-reports.html#sthash.oYnYWMZh.dpuf


257 posted on 12/27/2014 10:31:10 PM PST by maggief
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To: zipper

I think he said ‘tops up to 53,000 ft’, and that would explain the turbulence they were dealing with, and of course they couldn’t go that high....so they must have tried to fly through the storm right?


258 posted on 12/27/2014 10:34:03 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: zipper

Now he is correcting himself at 52,000 ft.


259 posted on 12/27/2014 10:35:01 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: maggief

I like that they’re still calling it a search and rescue effort. That means they haven’t given up hope of finding survivors at this point.


260 posted on 12/27/2014 10:35:45 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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