Posted on 12/26/2014 8:50:35 PM PST by smoothsailing
I’m sorry, but what has that to do with the discussion? I should hope that you have the firepower to protect yourself in any situation but that has very little to do with the discussion. Really not sure what you are getting at?
I want the police to have the latest and greatest weapons to defend themselves. What I do not want is the use of military vehicles and 20 officers used to catch a minor drug addict, usually no knock! Too many times they use a false report to justify their actions while destroying an innocent family.
Just responding to your post #10
Here I am sitting in a patrol car on duty and I have to read this post of yours and wonder just what you have to be afraid of? I have worked twenty years and still can’t figure out what an honest citizen has to worry about if they do nothing wrong. There are to many fish in the sea of crime for me to devote time to an honest man. What was it my grandfather said. a guilty dog usually barks the loudest ? Just what are you afraid of? This was an excellent article and accurately describes our profession.
What are you going to do when we give up on society and turn it over to the thugs you support.. What’s that old saying? And then they came for me and who shall I turn too?
Okay, I was still aggravated about your 2..3..1 response without understanding some of the other issues. I won’t elaborate but I did take offense for you 3..2..1 comments. I am definitely NOT anti police but I do think that they have taken things too far these days...
Actually a good question! I tell you that while I am a law abiding citizen, I fear that you will break my door down because of false information and put me in jail for days until I prove my innocence. This is something that I never imagined in the past. It happens (in the news) occasionally today.
I do not depend upon the police to protect me, I depend upon the police to find the folks that robbed me or otherwise caused me harm. I can not depend upon you for my own protection - you are too many minutes away. That is a fact. You are the fact finders after the fact in almost all instances.
Yes, I am afraid of you because I am a law abiding citizen and today, that does not seem to matter. Too many times I’ve read about innocent citizens arrested for anything that the officer decides to charge (most often later dropped). That has become a common occurrence these days. And yes, there is the police brotherhood that cares more about their police brothers than they do about the innocent victims.
I still think of the police as a protective force but have begun to think a bit differently, probably due to negative stories in the news. Not always accurate but the cumulative effect is a problem.
I still support you in your car (on duty) but watch you with a suspicious eye.... That was not so a few years ago.
Sorry if I offended you, not my intent. When I say your firsts response I thought you were “one of those”, and I apologize. I was so busy on another thread and I didn’t fully comprehend your response. That is something I’m working on and hope to do better in the future.
Once again I APOLOGIZE ... large enough for all to see.
No problem at all! I am probably much worse than you at stupid responses... Have a good one...
I might add that a lot of that has to do with recording a policeman while he is arresting or stopping someone. The police seem to think that they are not allowed to be recorded while they are doing their thing..(and don’t give me that interfering with the arrest crap). Does not seem to matter that the Supreme Court has decided the matter, they always resist, take the camera, arrest the folks, and otherwise cause problems! Seems that most of the police officers can’ abide by the laws that they support as long as it does not show them in a bad light.
Okay, now that you’ve got me on a roll... The Police are after revenue, not law enforcement! They set traps, use cameras, and other things to catch folks regardless if the citizen is endangering anyone. It’s become a matter of money only! And yes, stop light cameras are for money, usually cause more accidents though but that probably gets more money also. We have lost the idea of policing for safety long ago!
Deagle, Politicians are after your money, we don’t get it or take it from you. Root cause analysis that’s who takes your money and dictates that we administer citations or other penance that take your money. Root cause is that you commit an act that is against a law that was placed into state law or local that you violate and are caught breaking. Now imagine that the law goes up the chain into drugs and theft and many other crimes all with the same impact and all with a penance. Say if someone kidnapped your loved one and I told you that with some unauthorized method I could save them, would it bother you if I set a trap for this criminal? I doubt it.
The worst thing in law enforcement is someone that who is generally law abiding paying a fine that they know they committed the crime and begrudge being caught and having to pay.
So, no law breaking, no worries, you give little credence to your objections other than, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time .
So the next time you need a cop call 1.800.DIAL A THUG and you may began to appreciate us a little more . At least we’re not known to burn and loot.....lol have a nice day
Actually, I like your attitude, you may be one of the good ones! The problem is the the politicians want the money and make the police to things that they might not ordinarily do. Have seen this in action at least three times in my life, false speeding, false stop to check me out (twice). Now I do have to say that asking for directions from a policeman was helpful and a good experience.
There is a problem of politicians and the those in charge of the officers. It is passed down unfortunately.
No, I will not be calling 911 unless it is after the fact so I don’t expect resolution after the call. That is after the fact and will almost always be the case. Trying to defend the police for that is ridiculous. I would never expect the police to actually solve a case regarding murder or theft, that would be crazy.
I will call 911 when a crime occurs but do not expect any resolution but it is required for insurance purposes.
Actually, the worse thing is being stopped and ticketed for something that you know you did not do! How about a rookie cop ticketing someone when they used their radar while turning at 90 degrees toward the vehicle and about 1/2 mile away? That has happened to me when I had set auto speed and was actually NOT speeding...try telling that to an officer who wants money or to meet his quota! Good luck!!
I have a few deserved tickets during my computer maintenance days (lots of travel) but really hated false tickets!
More experiences but you know the idea... Not all police actions are good...
Idolizing a post is no better when liberals or conservatives do it.
It is God-consciousness that keeps the gendarmes from being just as terrible as the rest of the people... lacking a firm standard of virtue what does it mean to be the “finest” of a population?
I’d like to see Jesus Christ once more recognized as POTY.
Excuse me?
Following on, not countering
Strange reply.., Thought I was commenting to PROSOUTH, who are you to intervene?
There are jurisdictions where citizens are not even allowed that much protection.
Who is it that arrests people who violate those anti-Second Amendment laws?
Oh wow, speaking up on issues is verboten here without tracing the web of discussion. I never knew.
I.e. if you really want privacy on a topic, FREEPMAIL is there FOR A REASON...
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