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Pentagon Worries That Russia Can Now Outshoot U.S. Stealth Jets
The Daily Beast ^ | 12/04/2014 | Dave Majumdar

Posted on 12/04/2014 3:20:25 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 12/04/2014 3:20:25 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How do UK missiles like the meteor and the asraam compare? I know the latter has an infrared guidance system as well as radar.


2 posted on 12/04/2014 3:35:46 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Would any other president, even Carter, ever leaked this? If you were a high level advisor on a meeting with some members of this regime and this was discussed...then yo uhh saw this article, how would this make you feel?...then you would think to yourself or talk to a close associate...wow, if I complain I know I’ll be fired and audited...

That is where we are now. Any story you see about our military that is negative has been leaked. We cannot have any advantage over any other country.


3 posted on 12/04/2014 3:40:10 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (In Times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Becomes a Revolutionary Act.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It all comes down to how many genius level engineers you have and how many dollars you have to spend.

We have lots of both...but do we have the will?

If we spend every spare dollar on social programs we will fall dangerously behind.

Russia, China, India and Israel all have the brain power and the money to create super weapons... just like we do.


4 posted on 12/04/2014 3:48:41 AM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If there I a problem I would suggest to engage one of the Israeli scientists. Having brilliant minds endowed by their “CREATORS” (plural) I have little doubt that they may come up with a solution.


5 posted on 12/04/2014 3:49:44 AM PST by saintgermaine (Is she somehow related)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The ASRAAM doesn’t have a radar mode, IIRC.


6 posted on 12/04/2014 3:53:03 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: CodeToad

Ping


7 posted on 12/04/2014 3:57:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bobalu

None of those countries have the industrial base and budget the US has. Three of them have very large quantities of obsolete equipment, so replacing them eats up your budget. Israel has a relatively small budget, so its unfeasible for them to develop multiple types of cutting-edge equipment unless you are talking co-development.


8 posted on 12/04/2014 3:57:42 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

9 posted on 12/04/2014 4:04:23 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What you say is correct.

The US could out spend them by a large margin... but my point was we are diverting too much to social programs and not enough is being spent on R&D.

Israel and India have teamed up on many military projects.

Russia and China just spend what is needed on advanced weaponry and ignore social programs so they manage to turn out some great stuff.


10 posted on 12/04/2014 4:07:41 AM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Analyzing radar signals in real-time is quite a job!

Takes very powerful processors...


11 posted on 12/04/2014 4:10:24 AM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: Bobalu

If you go by government/international data, the US still spends a larger chunk of its GDP on defense than other countries, which when given its economy, is a huge figure.

Since the end of the Cold War, issue really seems to be defense programs turning into social programs. Pretty much every program now is decided by its clout in Congress and the number of jobs it creates...resulting in an over-expensive and inefficient industry.


12 posted on 12/04/2014 4:16:13 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Our Chinese are better than their Chinese.


13 posted on 12/04/2014 4:16:31 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Yup, so much waste... just imagine what we could do if the funds were well spent.


14 posted on 12/04/2014 4:21:55 AM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We spend a lot more $$, but a lot of that is personnel costs. Defense is clearly not a priority for this administration.


15 posted on 12/04/2014 4:23:58 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81

Personnel costs are a fact across the world, more so in countries that are relatively new to ‘networked’ systems. The likes of China and Russia need to offer more to their citizens if they want them to stay as officers in the military rather than seek greener pastures elsewhere.


16 posted on 12/04/2014 4:26:47 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Bobalu
Couldn't the missiles use a rotating RADAR frequency? I am not a weapon's expert, but I recall rotating frequency was an effective tool when the Enterprise was fighting the Borg!
17 posted on 12/04/2014 5:02:14 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: 11th Commandment

Lol, yes, that was effective on Star Trek.

Not so much in the real world....take a fraction of a second to adapt to new frequency.


18 posted on 12/04/2014 5:08:46 AM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Sounds to me that I would start working on a missile equivalent of “brilliant pebbles” that would be the size of a paper towel cardboard tube, carry no explosives at all, and be designed to fly right into the engine intake of an enemy aircraft. Where it hits might be a lot more important than the size of the bang.


19 posted on 12/04/2014 5:26:51 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The U.S. Military and our Aerospace industry have known about stealth technology at least twenty years before the rest of the world learned about it during Gulf War One.

I’m sure that during that time they were ready planning on ways to detect and defeat the stealth capabilities of other country’s.

Just sounds like unreasonable panic to me or the need to gin up funding for another black project.


20 posted on 12/04/2014 6:05:48 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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