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Jens Stoltenberg: the new man at Nato who must stand up to Putin and his tanks
telegraph.co.uk ^ | November 15, 2014 | David Blair

Posted on 11/15/2014 2:06:11 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Mariner

Nonsense, the United States and Great Britain and France and Germany and Poland and the other 23 nations of NATO are not ready to surrender to your backwards little Russian country with no effective Navy, little Air Force and still depending largely on old equipment and poorly trained and motivated 1 year draftees to fill their Army ranks, that may number as few as 240,000.

Quit with the childish nonsense. Why don’t you start explaining to us about the Russian ability to project force against NATO and defend it’s invasion forces?

Show us the capabilities that enable Russia to conduct mass invasions, fight a large sustained war, dominate the seas and the air, move troops by the 100s of thousands and cross NATO territories maintaining supply lines and skilled replacements, and doing it all while still keeping the lid on forces fighting internally for secession and preventing China from biting off chunks of it?


21 posted on 11/15/2014 3:34:52 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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"Why don’t you start explaining to us about the Russian ability to project force against NATO and defend it’s invasion forces?"

Your desire to paint me as pro-Russian is disingenuous. Nobody believes that but the stupid.

That said, I believe Russia could take the rest of Romania...(beyond transwhatever)...or any/all of the Baltics and nobody, repeat, nobody will fire a shot to stop them.

That's how weak-willed and intimidated Europe is.

Russia can still put 1500 nukes in the air.

Lack of real American resolve encourages Russia and demoralizes Europe.

They KNOW the USA under Obama will not save anyone except MAYBE the core of NATO West of Germany.

And that's a maybe.

22 posted on 11/15/2014 3:45:02 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GeronL

Ukraine isn’t a member of NATO—They should make it a member—but they will not. No one wants a general war in Europe—so they will give up 1/4 of Ukraine to keep the peace (lets hope Putin doesn’t want more!). Putin has read the Tea Leaves right and knows there is no stomach for a confrontation—especially if the USA is sitting back in a waiting mode. He can do what he likes. He may well move on Egypt or Cyprus.


23 posted on 11/15/2014 3:45:54 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

They do not need to be a NATO member in order to receive military aid


24 posted on 11/15/2014 3:49:55 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Mariner

Evidently you don’t have anything to say that has any usefulness, just an impulse to express your own mixture of confusion and anger, your personal feelings over and over.


25 posted on 11/15/2014 3:55:16 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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26 posted on 11/15/2014 7:19:49 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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