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Michael Moore: In Defense of My Friend Bill Maher's Statements on Islam
Reader Supported News ^ | 11/14/2014 | Michael Moore

Posted on 11/15/2014 10:45:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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If I understand Michael Moore's argument, this is what he's saying:

Historically, Christians have been responsible for more death and destruction than Muslims (e.g. the Crusades and the Inquisition). Therefore, we have no moral authority to criticize.

However, the actions of some Muslims in the name (mistakenly) of Islam deserve criticism.

1 posted on 11/15/2014 10:45:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What does the Bible say about the blind leading the blind? oh yeah, they both fall into the ditch.


2 posted on 11/15/2014 10:48:50 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Moore is a boil in need of an epic lancing...


3 posted on 11/15/2014 10:51:30 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: fish hawk

Moore’s rant is a waste of space.


4 posted on 11/15/2014 10:52:08 AM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Vendome

rofl...


5 posted on 11/15/2014 10:53:16 AM PST by Kackikat
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6 posted on 11/15/2014 10:59:07 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bill Maher is a vile scumbag and Moore is too


7 posted on 11/15/2014 11:00:42 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind
If you understand Moore's argument, you're as ignorant of history as he is.

The Crusades were wars of self-defense against an attempted Muslim takeover of Europe. The Inquisition was an attempt to save lives after secular kings set up heresy trials that resulted in subjects being executed without trials.

Muslims are estimated to have slaughtered 270 million in 14 centuries:

http://ed4444.tumblr.com/post/9078777434/the-lie-that-muslims-have-killed-270-million

Actually, according to Vox Day in THE IRRATIONAL ATHEIST, atheist regimes in the 20th Century alone killed and murdered about 153.3 million people for philosophical, political and economic reasons, while in 2,000 years people mis-representing the Christian faith killed and murdered only about 1.65 million, or 93 times less the number of people in 20 centuries compared to only one century!!!

Democide* Statistics, Christianity vs. Atheism

Atheist Democide in 1 century - 153.36 million people

Christian Democide in 20 centuries - 1.65 million people

* Democide includes genocide, political killings and murders, and mass murder.

8 posted on 11/15/2014 11:02:40 AM PST by Kazan
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I have, when I'm on Bill's show, told him there are far more examples historically of the death and destruction that Christians have brought to the planet, from the Crusades to the Inquisition to the wiping out of Native Americans to the Holocaust. But he points out that, in truth, the Jesus followers seem to have taken a break lately in their genocidial lust -- and that the debate should be about the present; i.e., which religion is now doing most of the terrorizing?

You're insane, fat man.

What makes me uneasy is having you hold any position even remotely close to mine, so would you please just sing Islams praises from now on, you cholesterol addled imbecile?

9 posted on 11/15/2014 11:24:34 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind
If I understand Michael Moore's argument, this is what he's saying:

Historically, Christians have been responsible for more death and destruction than Muslims (e.g. the Crusades and the Inquisition). Therefore, we have no moral authority to criticize.

However, the actions of some Muslims in the name (mistakenly) of Islam deserve criticism.


I didn't read it quite that way. Although Moore got in his predictable condemnations of Christianity, he said that he can't recall any Christians beheading anyone for criticizing them. Which is true, and therefore surprising coming from Moore.

In any event, as much as I loathe the smarmy Maher and the blow-hard Moore, at least they've had their eyes opened to the irony of being able to smear Christians as fanatics in perfect safety because Christians aren't, in fact, fanatics. And they're being somewhat honest, at least, about the fact that Islam is the religion which threatens to kill them for speaking their minds. Two small liberal epiphanies, perhaps.
10 posted on 11/15/2014 11:25:11 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind
"Michael Moore, the fat bastard..."


11 posted on 11/15/2014 11:27:13 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Kazan

The Crusades are under perpetual assault because they can’t have Christians inspired by a successful defense of Christendom.

Professional liars like Moore know what the truth is. He has to. He’s at war with it.


12 posted on 11/15/2014 11:30:53 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How’s that weight loss diet going for you Michael?


13 posted on 11/15/2014 11:33:25 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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14 posted on 11/15/2014 11:36:29 AM PST by PLD
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Has Michael Moron even BEEN to the Middle East yet? He had a second unit crew shoot video in Iraq (where they bumped into Nick Berg before he was kidnapped and decapitated by Islamonazis “freedom fighters against Imperialist Bush”). He had third party go betweens arrange the distribution deal for Lebanon (terrorist) funding...


15 posted on 11/15/2014 11:41:24 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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examples historically of the death and destruction that Christians have brought to the planet, from the Crusades...

Stop right there.

What caused the Crusades? To what were the Crusades a response? What population was being persecuted and slaughtered BEFORE the Crusaders took the field to put a stop to it?

Where is the largest and most beautiful Christian cathedral on the planet? Is it a cathedral today? Why not? Who seized it and desecrated it?

Who, knowing the facts, would not praise and give thanks to the CHRISTIAN Crusaders who know how to deal with Islam?

16 posted on 11/15/2014 11:43:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: a fool in paradise

That is very interesting


17 posted on 11/15/2014 11:44:48 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t agree that Christians have been responsible for more deaths than moozlums historically. What are you references for this? What this statement just pulled out of a dark place?


18 posted on 11/15/2014 12:30:19 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Though I would maintain that it is still the Judeo-Christian West whose armies and banks and institutions keep much of the third world under a heavy economic boot, resulting in a lot of hunger, suffering and death...

The calories required to sustain Michael Moore alone in his benighted life of corpulent and crapulent excess would alleviate hunger in a significant proportion of the famine victims in the world.

Hey Michael - isn't it way past time for you to indulge in that single, wafer-thin mint? Why don't you oink about it, m'kay?

19 posted on 11/15/2014 1:18:38 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would anybody read this past the headline?


20 posted on 11/15/2014 1:25:09 PM PST by x
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