Colorado marijuana revenues hit a new high

Washington Post ^ | Oct. 14, 2014

[tacticalogic]

Okay, and you believe I implied Madison’s comments were only meant in reference to the then new federal government not to government in general.

I believe you expressed approval of "out government's" drug laws. There was no attempt to qualify which government in evidence. The clear implication was that you meant all of them.

[elhombrelibre]

None of the governments in Madison time addressed the question of pot, to my knowledge. Again, the quote in the post is about the need for a government in the context of my discussions with a libertarian pro-pot poster. I don’t know why this reference to Madison is so significant to you, and I apologize if you feel I tried to mislead you or others as to the nature of Madison and the Founding Fathers and their views on pot.

[elhombrelibre]

Again, you miss the point. The Army didn't legalize. But there was an experiment. It was not an authorized one. It was not a legal one, but it was a real one. The results were obvious for all to see.

Studies show one in six people who use pot become addicted. You have to assume no additional people will use pot if it's legal. It's incredibly naïve to believe that.

Legalizing pot will not end illegal pot either. The illegal market is alive and well in Colorado. That's clear already. What many pot heads will want next is free pot, not legal.

And you're ignoring the fact that many terrible consequences are manifesting themselves in Colorado from homeless pot head freeloaders showing up there to concerns about the new use by children.

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2014/10/10/should-colorado-repeal-legal-marijuana/17037649/

[ConservingFreedom]

The point about Madison is that he believed we needed government

So do I - to combat violations of individual rights ... which drug sale and use are not.

[elhombrelibre]

"While the issue won't appear as a question on the ballot, the USA Today poll showed some dissatisfaction with Colorado's new legal sales of recreational pot.

50 percent of voters responded that they did not agree with the decision to legalize recreational marijuana, while 46 percent said they still did agree.

49 percent said they disapproved of the way the state is managing the drug, while 42 percent gave the state's regulations positive marks.

For detailed crosstabs of the USA Today/Suffolk poll, visit http://bit.ly/1BMP5vp"

[elhombrelibre]

See you favor sale of heroin too. You’re really exposed as a crank, you know.

[elhombrelibre]

More illegality comes from the immoral, degenerate pot heads getting pot decriminalized, not less.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/local/colorado/2014/10/09/colorado-sheriff-seeing-more-illegal-pot-grows/16964755/

[ConservingFreedom]

BTW, I see you're sticking to the issues today. Good choice.

[elhombrelibre]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/20/tyrrell-the-growing-acceptance-of-weed/

[tacticalogic]

None of the governments in Madison time addressed the question of pot, to my knowledge. Again, the quote in the post is about the need for a government in the context of my discussions with a libertarian pro-pot poster. I don’t know why this reference to Madison is so significant to you, and I apologize if you feel I tried to mislead you or others as to the nature of Madison and the Founding Fathers and their views on pot.

And the failure to make the distinction between state and federal governments is all good, because "it's about pot", right?

[elhombrelibre]

The failure was due to my inability to think that someone would come along and take great exception with me for not making clear for him what I believed was statement about government (not state, not federal) in general using a Madison quote to what he believes requires a constitutional exegesis about states rights and enumerated powers, I guess.

[tacticalogic]

The failure was due to my inability to think that someone would come along and take great exception with me for not making clear for him what I believed was statement about government (not state, not federal) in general using a Madison quote to what he believes requires a constitutional exegesis about states rights and enumerated powers, I guess.

The failure to maintain that distinction foremost in legislative matters is how we get RINOs.

[elhombrelibre]

A...okay. Thanks for the input.

[elhombrelibre]

Locke and Montesquieu kept making that same mistake too, even when they were not posting about pot.

[tacticalogic]

Well, there’s only so many hours in a day. Maybe I’ll get them next time :).

[elhombrelibre]

Well, you fixed Madison today, and you might as well leave something important for tomorrow. ;-)

All the best,

[tacticalogic]

Well, you fixed Madison today, and you might as well leave something important for tomorrow. ;-)

I try to fix things today, because tomorrow is already important ;).

[elhombrelibre]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/high-school-youth-trends

[ConservingFreedom]

The Army didn't legalize. But there was an experiment. It was not an authorized one. It was not a legal one, but it was a real one. The results were obvious for all to see.

As I said, as a free society America has never imposed on itself the standards of its military.

Studies show one in six people who use pot become addicted. You have to assume no additional people will use pot if it's legal.

No I don't - addiction is a matter not just of chemistry but of patterns of use, which would change with legality.

Legalizing pot will not end illegal pot either. The illegal market is alive and well in Colorado.

There are illegal cigarettes where those are overtaxed - the answer is not to ban but to cut taxes.

And you're ignoring the fact that many terrible consequences are manifesting themselves in Colorado from homeless pot head freeloaders showing up there

They wold have been somewhere in any case, and it's not like Colorado had none previously - but certainly something for states to weigh in the balance.

to concerns about the new use by children.

No evidence at your link for new use by children.

[elhombrelibre]

You miss the point again. No one wants to impose the Army's standards. The point is that when pot use was overlooked soldiers did not self regulate.

This link shows greater pot use by kids. But since you think that's okay, I don't think you'll find that troubling or in anyway harmful to your cause. Pot seems to be a religion for you.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/high-school-youth-trends