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Robinson: You know, we’re losing the fight against ISIS
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| October 14, 2014
| ED MORRISEY
Posted on 10/14/2014 4:58:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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posted on
10/14/2014 4:58:36 AM PDT
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Kaslin
To: Kaslin
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:12:46 AM PDT
by
blam
(Jeff Sessions For President)
To: Kaslin
I read the same words in the UK from blokes posting emails as well as journalist Peter Hitchens, who calls the actions of David Cameron all bluff and bluster.
The phony nature of the situation is proved by what has happened and is happening at Khobani on the Turkish border with Syria.
For weeks the IS guys attacked and pushed the Kurds back into the town, then the airstrikes begin. Meanwhile the Turkish tanks standby overlooking the town while the Kurds are crushed.
Peter Hitchens put it this way in a recent column....
“Almost everything you thought you knew about the war with IS has been proved untrue by the absurd stand-off at Kobane on the Syrian-Turkish border.
Turkey isn’t our ally, even though it’s in Nato. On the contrary, it’s an increasingly Islamist state run by a dangerous demagogue who should worry us as much as IS does.
That’s why the Turkish tanks stand and watch as IS overwhelms the brave defenders of Kobane.”
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:18:57 AM PDT
by
Nextrush
(OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
To: Kaslin
Could it be because we really haven’t started to fight them.
To: Kaslin
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:21:41 AM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
To: Kaslin
Donna Brazile has her head so far up that wide caboose of hers it’s pathetic. So is the wide caboose.
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:22:37 AM PDT
by
NRA1995
(I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
To: NRA1995
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:23:26 AM PDT
by
Kaslin
(He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
To: Kaslin
The “O” ‘sterile’, ‘war from a distance’ is not going to work with THIS enemy.
Maybe he thinks if he keeps US military opposition nominal, grudging and at a remove, failure will not touch him
. and he can STILL say he tried.
The whole thing is typical of an irresolute and outof-his-depth Liberal community organizer who finds himself in a REAL job with REAL accountability.
Liberals always want it BOTH WAYS! This works best for them because they are paralyzed with fear at having to take command of a situation, make a decision, then ACT responsibly and decisively.
I used to be like that
then I grew up!
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:24:53 AM PDT
by
SMARTY
("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
To: Kaslin
Kind of hard to win when the administration is made up of Muslims.
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:25:10 AM PDT
by
longfellow
(Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
To: Kaslin
Robinson: You Know, We're Losing the Fight Against ISIS There are Robinsons, and there are Robinsons.
Some (hey Yoo-Jeen!) are a little slower than others.
To: Kaslin
"That is precisely why Leon Panetta and Robert Gates kept advising Obama to find a way to keep American troops in Iraq. Had we kept that force in place, we could have put more pressure on Nouri al-Maliki to integrate the Sunnis into the public life of Iraq. Instead, we walked away and allowed Maliki to purge the Sunnis, creating exactly the conditions that Robinson now laments."
Let's play the what if game. What if it had been George W Bush who had pulled out all of the troops from Iraq in 2011? Would we not be hearing about this over and over again ad nuesuem in the press? Thus insulating Obama and putting all the blame on Bush? But since it was Obama who screwed up in epic proportions, the press gives him a pass.
Let's not forget that this was Obama's strategy all along. Come hell or highwater, we're getting out of Iraq. Remember the debate against McCain in 2008? When McCain supposedly made a gaffe by saying what does it matter if we leave troops in Iraq for 50 years? No one remembers that he then went onto say as long as they are not getting killed. And he also drew the correct parallel to how we have had troops stationed in South Korea since the end of the Korean war. Yes, McCain makes intelligent and cogent arguments from time to time....
To: SMARTY
Lets see, a committed, relatively low-tech enemy able to hide easily among the local population. An air campaign of fits and starts, intent on bombing them back to the negotiating table or from taking any more territory. "Leadership" that thinks it can direct the day to day operations and micro-manage the war from DC.
All that sounds familiar. I don't think it will work any better this time around than it did in SE Asia. But then, if liberals actually learned from history, they wouldn't be liberals and support such blatantly socialist/fascist ideals that have been proven to be bad over and over and over again.
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posted on
10/14/2014 5:51:29 AM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
To: ThunderSleeps
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posted on
10/14/2014 6:21:16 AM PDT
by
SMARTY
("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
To: Kaslin
Had we kept that force in place, we could have put more pressure on Nouri al-Maliki to integrate the Sunnis into the public life of Iraq. This is BS. We could stay there 500 years and we would never be able to "put pressure" on Shia and Sunnis to work together.
This is just more pie-in-the-sky gobbledygook speak.
Whenever we left Iraq it was going to fall apart. Whether that was under Obama or anyone else. Same thing happened in Egypt. Same thing happened in Libya when their dictators fell.
These people cannot get along. Period. They've been fighting each other and chopping off heads for over 600 years.
It is not our fault they are like this.
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posted on
10/14/2014 6:40:18 AM PDT
by
Lorianne
(fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
To: ThunderSleeps
Ed Zackery. And the leftist press has acted as though every war or conflict led by a Republican is Viet-Nam II. Now they have a rat president trying his best to create another Viet-Nam and the press is silent. Evil bastards every one.
To: Kaslin
Im not sure whether the president and his aides are guilty of optimism or self-delusion.neither . . . the word is "TREASON"
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posted on
10/14/2014 6:46:45 AM PDT
by
RatRipper
(No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
To: RatRipper
Treason is practiced openly now ... there are no consequences and no convictions. A country that does not punish treason cannot long stand.
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posted on
10/14/2014 6:55:27 AM PDT
by
Comment Not Approved
(When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
To: RightOnTheBorder
Yeah, I try not to see every conflict since Vietnam as another Vietnam. Of course the press, as you point out, loves to try to draw that conclusion for any GOP leader and ignore it for any 'rat.
Most conflicts have been very different and a comparison to Vietnam is meaningless. However, obama's handling of ISIS is starting to smack of the same fundamental incompetence and incorrect assumptions that made Vietnam such a charlie-foxtrot. In that regard I think the comparison is valid and that there are a lot of parallels.
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10/14/2014 7:11:12 AM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
To: Kaslin
Its not too soon to state the obvious1) Bombs do not win wars.
2) ISIS is very capable, militarily.
3) It is possible for us to lose the war, of which Mesopotamia is a battle. Especially if we don't fight.
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posted on
10/14/2014 7:14:00 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
To: Kaslin
Just cut off all access to drinking water. Should only take a few weeks for things to shake out. Use the military to capture remote areas near rivers. Dam them up and sit back to pick off the desparate attempts to search for water. Should be SOP in the Middle East.
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posted on
10/14/2014 7:28:18 AM PDT
by
Codeflier
(Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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