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There is No Such Thing as a ‘Dignified Death’
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2014 | Steve Deace

Posted on 10/11/2014 11:11:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/11/2014 11:11:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Hold on. If someone commits a violent crime using a weapon against another. They should receive the same.

Simple.


2 posted on 10/11/2014 11:15:29 AM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Kaslin

Some will judge her harshly for seeming to ‘hasten death’s hand’, but I don’t. If the brain cancer continues as expected, she will have an existence encumbered by extreme, unrelenting pain, that or stay morphined up around the clock. I’m not in that situation, and hope to never be in it.


3 posted on 10/11/2014 11:20:53 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Eddie01

Quick discussion as to why the Catholic Church declared suicide a sin. In the 2nd and 3rd century, there were ‘Christian’ suicide sects. They for so numerous that the church declared suicide the ‘unforgivable’ sin to discourage these sects. No other doctrinal reason.

The decision as to how to end her life, facing zero recovery and only pain, crippling hospital and doctor costs, and the emotional toll on her family, has clearly been thought out and it is not anyone else’s right to tell her no.


4 posted on 10/11/2014 11:27:08 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: lee martell

Very well said


5 posted on 10/11/2014 11:30:38 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Eddie01

Your post makes absolutely no sense


6 posted on 10/11/2014 11:31:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone been hunting? Sure, this is Free Republic.

When you bag that deer, and it’s still breathing but in pain and suffering, do you let it continue or do you do the humane thing and end it’s suffering?

We should never force a human being to undergo pain and suffering on what we KNOW will end in death.

I would argue that God gave man the humanity to end suffering by easing the passing through the veil to paradise.


7 posted on 10/11/2014 11:36:36 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Eddie01

Death with dignity for murderers. Don’t keep them locked up in a degrading cell for life — dress them up in formal wear, and, following a ceremony filled with pomp and circumstance, give them a dignified death. Is that what you’re getting at?


8 posted on 10/11/2014 11:37:40 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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“I’ve discussed with many experts how I would die from it and it’s a terrible way to die.”

Not usually. Most patients with this type of cancer die in their sleep.

9 posted on 10/11/2014 11:38:28 AM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Kaslin

None of the authors business. He is not her God. Government, the church, or the state have no say in this. It’s a family matter.


10 posted on 10/11/2014 11:41:24 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Cry if I Wanna
"it’s a terrible way to die.”

Not usually. Most patients with this type of cancer die in their sleep.

WOW! And the day before? The week before? The month before?

11 posted on 10/11/2014 11:44:42 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

“Not usually. Most patients with this type of cancer die in their sleep. “

After they’ve gone thru the suffering and ridiculous medical expenses


12 posted on 10/11/2014 11:46:30 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: rstrahan

I’m Catholic and I don’t know what to say. Can’t begin to imagine what has driven this young woman to such a horrific decision.

I have read in recent years that the Catholic Church in America has relented from its harsh judgement in some cases of suicide (no Christian burial, burial in unconsecrated ground) based on the theory that no one in their right mind would choose to commit suicide.

Insanity equals exoneration, so the belief goes.

Always possible to pray for a miracle.


13 posted on 10/11/2014 11:46:47 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am now a radicalized infidel.")
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Some will judge her harshly for seeming to ‘hasten death’s hand’, but I don’t.

Individuals have always worked this sort of thing out for themselves. That isn't new. The real trouble is the State of Oregon made this legal. The system will now continually expand the pool of participants to justify the law. In Belgium (I believe) healthy old people can now kill themselves because they can't bear to grow old.

14 posted on 10/11/2014 11:48:30 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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I don’t believe this decision is mine to make. I don’t want any government encouraging it due to the inevitable mission creep of any such policy or law. If allowing it is good then encouraging it is better and then comes the law requiring it, under the bureaucratic mindset.

So, I believe what she wants to do is wrong, even if I understand why she wants to do it. If she wants to overdose on medication and fade out of existence rather than face the unknown and likely awful consequence of the fatal disease she has, she can certainly do so. There needs to be no law changed, no dragging medical services into it, no moral codes undermined to achieve her goal of exiting this plane of existence on her own schedule rather than God’s.

Just don’t expect the rest of us to applaud or accept such as an appropriate response, let alone require complicity and subject ourselves to the same.


15 posted on 10/11/2014 11:51:01 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Drango

Amen!


16 posted on 10/11/2014 11:54:06 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

“Died in their sleep” is a euphemism for “we found them dead in the morning and we don’t know what happened during the night.”


17 posted on 10/11/2014 11:56:29 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Kaslin

It would appear that Mr. Dearce’s essay rests upon his interpretation of the word “dignity”. The Cambridge dictionary defines dignity as “the quality of a person that makes him or her deserving of respect, sometimes shown in behavior or appearance” suggesting external vs. internal regard, but then lists as synonyms the words self-regard, self-respect, and self-worth which are internal reflections.

He doesn’t see any dignity in her intention because it doesn’t conform to HIS sensibilities. I would remind Mr. Dearce that it isn’t his choice or decision.

It isn’t my place to judge Brittany’s intentions - that’s between her and her God. I do (of course) reserve the right to hold and express an opinion. In reflecting on the relative merits of the dignity contained within the decision to take control over the timing and machination of ones mortality I would offer the following observations: Hijacking a passenger airline and slamming it into a building full of people - not dignified. Likewise, ramming a speeding automobile into a bridge abutment - even in the absence of physical injury to others isn’t dignified. Ending your mortality in the privacy of your home through self-medication - yea I can see that as a dignified act. She recognizes the gravity of the moment and isn’t approaching it with casual disregard. She is trying to orchestrate the act so as to minimize the resulting consequence to others. And she is taking responsibility for herself and her mortality.

No matter what it is a tough situation and a tougher decision. I pray for her.


18 posted on 10/11/2014 11:57:08 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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“By making the decision to end her own life on November 1st, Maynard is assuming she has nothing more to offer this world or her loved ones beyond that point. That is to say in essence she is playing God and making decisions as if she alone knows the future”

Somebody has to say it. If she is so willing to do something as extreme as end her life why not just try cannabis oil which is not even semi extreme and maybe pair it up with oxygen therapy. People are curing themselves of cancer with cannabis oil all over the place. If it does not work in a couple of mos then she can off herself.


19 posted on 10/11/2014 12:01:24 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Woman, you want to die, go right ahead. But don’t try to blackmail me into making suicide into some kind of a cause and saying I must approve.

The only problem I have with you is your incessant yakking about it. I don’t want to hear it.


20 posted on 10/11/2014 12:02:27 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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