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Obama on ISIS: It’s James Clapper’s Fault! Hapless, dishonest intel chief thrown under the bus.
Pajamas Media ^ | 09/29/2014 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 09/29/2014 8:51:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

This might be another stopped-clock-is-right-twice-a-day moment. The intelligence failure in underassessing the threat posed by the DAISH (I prefer the Arabic acronym) might well be due to Clapper, who seems to be the champion of the NSA using its resources to make war on the citizenry of the United States, rather than directing its effort overseas as its mission as our foreign signals-intelligence arm would dictate. (Yes, make war — the conduct of signals-intelligence is a war measure, that it why the NSA’s program is so offensive, and would remain offensive even if there were a non-human algorithmic filter constructed by serious civil libertarians built into the system to prevent “abuse”.)

Maybe if the NSA had been attending to what was going on in the Middle East, rather than using it resources to analyse all our cell-phone calls (oh, it’s just “metadata” and “business records”) they might have noticed that the DAISH wasn’t Al Qaeda’s “jayvee” squad.


21 posted on 09/29/2014 9:40:10 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know how we’re going to survive two more years of this POS usurper and saboteur. He hasn’t even acknowledged the terrorist murder in OK, but he’s right there with both feet in his mouth every time a thug gets killed by someone practicing self-defense. It’s unprecedented for a president to not acknowledge the terrorist murder of an American citizen on American soil, but this POS is not doing it.


22 posted on 09/29/2014 9:40:44 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SeekAndFind

Clearly, Clapper is as dumb as a dust mite, but, what kind of idiot is ObOzO to believe him.


23 posted on 09/29/2014 9:41:49 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Ann Archy
Obama and Valjar surround themselves with useful idiots. Just look at Marie Harff, Jen Psaki, Susan Rice, John Kerry, Clapper, Hagel, et,al.

Stupid and loyal elitists.

24 posted on 09/29/2014 9:42:47 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

All easily manipulated girls....ALL of THEM!! There’s not a complete set in the bunch!


25 posted on 09/29/2014 9:43:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
While I really don't care for Ann Coulter, can you imagine her first day in an Obama cabinet meeting?

She would explode! Rage would have her eyes rolling like the wheels on a truck. Anger would have her foaming at the mouth like a rabid badger. Her knuckles would be raw from knocking the teeth out of those offering more destructive nonsense. Her brain would ache from the collective IQ in the room coming in below a mediocre golf score if she excludes her own.

26 posted on 09/29/2014 9:52:04 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: The_Reader_David

I hope that you’re not suggesting that NSA was NOT attending to what is going on in the Middle East. I’ve been retired for some time now, but before I hung up my cans, I can tell you that the Agency has NOT turned its attention away from the Middle East.


27 posted on 09/29/2014 9:56:43 AM PDT by Ax
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To: hal ogen
hal ogen:" He wants his friends in ISIS to be successful...and so do his commie minions."

That's why we send bombers and missles AT NIGHT against ISIS , and we destroy EMPTY offices and buildings, and break out windows
because according to the administration's ROE "we hit'em where they ain't", but we break a lot of windows,destroy furniture, and incinerate their cell phones.
To be effective , you hit their offices at 11:00AM while they are working, you hit their training schools, you take away their supply lines and ammo dumps, etc.,etc.
This war against terrorism is all theatre and looking good in the press saying that we are doing something; it is not designed to terminate ISIS or terrorism.
It is designed to fail .

28 posted on 09/29/2014 11:00:02 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Kabuki theater. That’s all it is. The gullible love it.


29 posted on 09/29/2014 12:05:07 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind
So why was Feinstein warning about rising terror groups months before Obama acknowledged it?

She had the same intel that Obama had.

30 posted on 09/29/2014 12:05:22 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Ax

No, but resources devoted to what I have just argued is a war measure against the citizenry of the United States might have been deployed instead against foreign targets.


31 posted on 09/29/2014 2:47:45 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David

Arabic linguists are not going to use their talents against US civilians. Doesn’t make sense.


32 posted on 09/29/2014 8:00:36 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

No, but computing resources might be (have been) turned to expanded automated monitoring of Arabic and other Muslim-language chatter, rather than toward warrantless domestic surveillance, and money might have been spent hiring more Arabic linguists instead of building infrastructure for a panopticon state in Utah.


33 posted on 09/29/2014 9:00:27 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Ax

I see from other reports that the possibility I had allowed that Obama’s passing the blame was a stopped-clock-twice-a-day instance, was not, in fact the case, and that his intelligence briefings even late in his last term had included warnings about the DAISH (a.k.a. ISIL, ISIS or lately IS). While I’m happy that the use of NSA resources to monitor American citizens in violation of the plain meaning of the Constitution, if not of some twisted interpretation given by secret courts (what would the Founders thing of secret courts?), was not, in this instance, responsible for the imperilment of our material safety, I’m still not pleased with the conduct of signals intelligence against the American citizenry as a whole.


34 posted on 09/30/2014 7:14:39 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David

I spent 33 years with the Agency, almost all of it on the tip of the spear, 22 years overseas. In my job I would’ve seen intercepts between US persons. I never saw ONE. We were continually reminded of our responsibilities under the 4th Amendment; a violation could result in dismissal or prosecution. If it went on, it was pretty well hidden.


35 posted on 09/30/2014 9:20:15 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax
Thank you for your service. I'm glad during your time at the Agency, in your section at least, things were done correctly with regard to the Constitution, and the focus was rightly on foreign intelligence.

Unfortunately, between Snowden's revelations, and with the decay of the Zeitgeist into what I call "the Era of Bad Stewards", I'm not so confident that all those now in the NSA are serving as honorably as you did in your 33 years.

36 posted on 10/01/2014 3:01:03 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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