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PC madness. When the doctors put PC ahead of health and safety we're in trouble.
1 posted on 09/27/2014 8:34:55 PM PDT by Phillyred
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They just can’t kill us off fast enough, can they.


24 posted on 09/27/2014 9:17:22 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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Utter bullshit. Hysterically false.


27 posted on 09/27/2014 9:29:29 PM PDT by montag813
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Who is writing this fiction?


28 posted on 09/27/2014 9:31:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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AND the push is on to repeal all “disclosure” laws that require HIV/AIDS victims to inform their sexual partners.

AIDS Pride and all that.


30 posted on 09/27/2014 9:33:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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so a 2% increase in the blood supply will save a million lives? I had no idea that 50 million Americans bled to death.


31 posted on 09/27/2014 9:34:28 PM PDT by dangus
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“Study: Allowing blood donations from gay men could help save over a million lives in U.S.”

This title is deceptive. A careful reading of the text will show that it was a CALIFORNIA study.


34 posted on 09/27/2014 9:53:19 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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They are banned because of likely transmission of deadly disease....just like the ban for decades now if you have travelled to Africa in the past five years


35 posted on 09/27/2014 9:54:30 PM PDT by Nifster
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I am a Medical Technologist as well as a frequent (every 8 weeks) blood donor. There are many other medical reasons that blood donors are temporarily or permanently deferred, most of which are to protect the recipient, but some are actually to protect the donor.

As far as HIV goes, it is an established fact that the incidence of AIDS is much higher in the gay community than in the general population so those that engage in this risky behavior should be excluded. Although blood is tested for the presence of the virus, there is a "window" after infection during which the blood test will be negative even though the person is capable of transmitting the infection through blood or blood products.

IV drug use is another high-risk category of donors that are excluded, not just because of HIV, but also Hepatitis B and C. It is typical of the gay and lesbian lobby to complain because they cannot do whatever they want to do just because of "discrimination".

36 posted on 09/27/2014 9:57:20 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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All that extra blood isn’t going to help anyone if it isn’t safe to use.

This isn’t about bigotry or homophobia or anything else besides hard statistical data. Gay and Bisexual men in the United States have an exponentially higher rate of current HIV infections and represent a staggering percentage of new HIV infections.

From the CDC’s own website:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm

-50% of all existing HIV/AIDS cases are gay or bisexual men.

-Gay and bisexual men account for nearly 2/3’s of all new cases of HIV each year.

-Young gay and bisexual boys and men aged 13 to 25, (which the CDC generously estimates to be 2% of the general population) account for no less than 3/4’s of the new HIV cases each year. That represents an increase of almost 60% since 2008.

-Gay and bisexual men also account for a disproportionately high percentage (75%) of new syphilis cases each year. Syphilis is still very much a killer, folks.

It’s madness to even consider using such a high risk group for blood donation. No testing method is infallible, and this would represent an undue risk to the blood supply. It doesn’t matter if it’s gay men or needle-sharing drug addicts, the risk is too damned high.

Oh, and if the ban is so discriminatory, why aren’t lesbians (who have very low HIV infection rates) banned from donating blood? Again, this is not about anything but sound and sane medicine.


38 posted on 09/27/2014 10:15:09 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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Damn. These people are determined that if one thing doesn’t get us, another will. Blood from sodomites, epidemics from illegals, ebola...


39 posted on 09/27/2014 10:15:09 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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All that extra blood isn’t going to help anyone if it isn’t safe to use.

This isn’t about bigotry or homophobia or anything else besides hard statistical data. Gay and Bisexual men in the United States have an exponentially higher rate of current HIV infections and represent a staggering percentage of new HIV infections.

From the CDC’s own website:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm

-50% of all existing HIV/AIDS cases are gay or bisexual men.

-Gay and bisexual men account for nearly 2/3’s of all new cases of HIV each year.

-Young gay and bisexual boys and men aged 13 to 25, (which the CDC generously estimates to be 2% of the general population) account for no less than 3/4’s of the new HIV cases each year. That represents an increase of almost 60% since 2008.

-Gay and bisexual men also account for a disproportionately high percentage (75%) of new syphilis cases each year. Syphilis is still very much a killer, folks.

It’s madness to even consider using such a high risk group for blood donation. No testing method is infallible, and this would represent an undue risk to the blood supply. It doesn’t matter if it’s gay men or needle-sharing drug addicts, the risk is too damned high.

Oh, and if the ban is so discriminatory, why aren’t lesbians (who have very low HIV infection rates) banned from donating blood? Again, this is not about anything but sound and sane medicine.


40 posted on 09/27/2014 10:15:12 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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I seriously doubt that accepting blood donations from that 1% of the population that is gay male is going to make a big difference in blood supply.

I wonder how many people are indefinitely deferred from donating because they have a history of living in certain areas in Europe during the mad cow era?

Neither me, my husband, or our son can ever donate blood for that reason.


43 posted on 09/27/2014 10:21:10 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Um, hello. Anyone in Europe in the late 1980s is banned from giving blood, forever, in the USA. including our service people and including me. The reason given is that there was an outbreak of mad cow in England during those years. Most of us were not even in England and had no access to UK beef. Yet we are banned from ever giving blood.

First open the stupid rules against us before you open them to gay men.


47 posted on 09/27/2014 11:29:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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How do they know that they are gay?


48 posted on 09/27/2014 11:43:43 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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I cannot donate my O+ blood because of malaria & hepatitis. Would you rather chance getting one of those or HIV?

When we lived in Africa, I can assure you that if one of my family had needed blood, they would have been given mine rather than some unknown from the blood bank.


49 posted on 09/28/2014 12:21:56 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Gang Green and the Government Staff Infection " - Glen Morgan, Freedom Foundation.)
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fta... The American Medical Association, the American Red Cross and AABB, formerly the American Association of Blood Banks, said in a statement this summer that the lifetime ban on blood donations for men who have had sex with other men should be modified.
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Obviously a tactic aimed at reducing the number of long term care patients and the associated costs.


51 posted on 09/28/2014 12:43:07 AM PDT by octex
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So millions of folks are dying because of a blood shortage, and without the sodomy factor, that doesn’t make the news?


52 posted on 09/28/2014 1:03:13 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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BS- bad serum. Good grief, can we head down the drain, a bit faster, please?


53 posted on 09/28/2014 1:04:54 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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I’m enough of a math person to have trouble seeing how 615,300 pints a year of infected blood could save a million people a year, even if the diseases they carry were in ant way good for you.


55 posted on 09/28/2014 1:36:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Study: Allowing blood donations from gay men could help save over a million lives in U.S.

Socialize the evil; kill everybody equally. This crap is straight from the Prince of Lies. Pure, unadulterated evil.

56 posted on 09/28/2014 1:42:34 AM PDT by meadsjn
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