Posted on 09/21/2014 8:06:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
There is a huge cache of information that is publicly available. Just by reading trade magazines, the Chinese can probably get at least 70% of everything they need.
They would only need a few sophisticated spies to get the other 30%.
I don't know what these Chinese students can steal. But they sure do influence the grading curve in science classes.
Quick story. I once worked as a university security guard. I liked the holiday shifts because they were time and a half. The campus was empty, except for the Chines students. They were still hard at work in the labs and in the research libraries. No fooling around or down time with them.
That’s true.
Again, effective border control and immigration policies would solve the issue.
If they greet Chinese dignitaries at airports and other public places and block protesters, even if they are students I would say as far as spies go, yeah, that’s pretty unprofessional.
Cheerleaders maybe.
If the country where the airport/public event is located has people reading articles like this one and know that these ‘cheerleaders’ are actually spies, wouldn’t they be subject to counter-espionage?
I don’t know how many times back in the ‘60s and ‘70s I heard and read about Soviet moles burrowing into American society so they could steal the recipe for Coca Cola or KFC’s secret spices. Yeah, whatever you say MSM.
I don’t think you really want to know that answer to that one.
New world order sets up student exchanges, scholarships, etc.
Explore the websites of United Nations, Rockefeller foundations, Rhodes Scholar and other elite British programs, World Bank, thousands of other foundations, the US State Dept, etc.
George Soros (minor financial minion) founded his own university in Eastern Europe.
This is how nwo trains their children and any minions that work for them.
All Ivy League and other elite schools are nwo schools.
All the top level folks in EVERY Presidential administration (people like Geithner, etc.) are all trained as nwo minions in elite schools.
Amongst all these schools, they love have “study abroad” to get their children and proteges foreign relations experience.
American elites have been sending their kids to China for education and start of their careers for a number of years. Nice thing to brag about at cocktail parties, “my kid is fluent in Mandarin and works in or around China”.
I was on campus when the first Chinese students arrived in my dorm around 1980. Two males and a female. They all wore Mao suits. One of the guys was thin and taller, the other guy and girl were shorter and heavier.
They were fully exposed to “Animal House” atmosphere of the time.
Within a few years the Chinese were moved into apartment style housing more segregated from the rest of the student population.
I lived next door to a large number of them during the late ‘80s. An English instructor said that she was a PLA captain.
During the 90’s they didn’t need even that.
Bill Clinton gave them, under orders, unrestricted access to picatinney arsenal.
Even better, the arsenal was not told to expect visitors, and was only made aware of the Chinese delegation at the same time as they arrived.
Yeah, cover sensitive items now..
I wonder what Obama is doing.
Some defense projects begin in universities with students.
It would be research.
Doesn’t bother me if I were to be called a bigot - I know what I am.
I wouldn’t waste energy by saying ‘no I’m NOT!’
Usually, attempting to call one a bigot is a hope to shut down the conversation.
If I were ever called a bigot, my first reaction would be to have one big hearty laughing guffaw. And then add a remark like: ‘Get over yourself.’
When I was at U of California ages ago, it was my distinct impression that nearly all the Chinese students, and professors alike, were spies. I got that impression when I noticed how reliably you could get a rise out of them by slipping something mildly negative about China into the conversation, which I came to enjoy doing.
A professional wouldn't bat an eye if you told him his country was crap and its leaders murderers, much less negatively react at some slight offhand criticism. But it was pretty easy to make the Chinese nationals here on student visas quite upset if you insinuated that some aspect of American life was superior to theirs. Predictable and transparent as hell. They should all be sent packing.
We had a Chinese male student in our high school class in the mid ‘50’s.
What I can remember, I believe he had lived in Communist China, and escaped. Probably not just himself, but what do I know??!
I think school was hard for him, not knowing much English.
I do remember him smiling shyly now and again.
It did not seem he was being groomed at all to be a ‘plant’ or anything. He did nothing to draw attention to himself, and I think he had some enjoyable moments in school. Most likely when a teacher treated him fairly, and didn’t sluff him off. Ditto regarding any of us.
Wish now I knew more about him. I don’t even know where he lived, in our town on Long Island. But I didn’t know where most of my classmates lived.
Back then, starting after WWII, the Long Island potato and other farms were selling to real estate developers: witness Levittown.
Some years ago when I was back for a reunion, my high school town was occupied by many folks from India. I do not know what drew them there - probably relatives - but what drew the first arrivals??! So goes the ebb and flow of immigration. And the businesses the immigrants own.
Well, in the case of the Univ of Cincinnati back in the mid 80's, it was the taxpayer footing the bill. The Mathematics department gave all the graduate assistantships ( included full tuition and a yearly stipend - paid for by the state of Ohio ) to "students" from China. Most of these "students" already had advanced degrees. The head of the graduate department had the gall, in an interview in the Wall Street Journal for an article about why so many TA's in the US were foreign students, to say that there were plenty of scholarships, but no US students apply - when there were at least 6 of us that applied and were qualified, but were turned down because there were "no scholarships available". ( Incidentally, this same professor received an all paid full year sabbatical at a university in China 2 years later )
Quoth Johnny Chung:
“I see the White House is like a subway: You have to put in coins to open the gates.”
I wonder if we F with other countries in the same ways?
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
They pay the full tab, extravagant as it may be. Which is why universities love and court them. Which is why there arent as many spaces for American students at the state university our taxes help finance, so that the Americans may have to go to private colleges, with resultant expense. At least that's the way it is in my state.
And attach a green card to all their degrees when graduated from American universities.
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