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Scouter's Updated Ebola Model (Vanity)
Self | September 19, 2014 | Scouter

Posted on 09/19/2014 8:46:26 AM PDT by scouter

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To: cuban leaf
Which reminds me, I gotta call my stock broker. ;-)

Invest in bleach companies while you're at it. A 10% solution of bleach disinfects surfaces (and the exterior of dead bodies) quite nicely.

That's a 10% dilution of the bleach from the bottle, which is 6% solution. So the real dilution is 0.6%. I just want to be clear on that point. Another important point is that bleach should be diluted daily, because it is unstable. It is perfectly safe to pour used bleach solutions down the drain.

81 posted on 09/20/2014 6:55:28 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Kartographer
I have only one question did you or is there even a way to take in account situations in which because of the death rate in combination of the lack of and deterioration of health service allows for both the increase spread and even higher death rate because of the lack of support treatment?

I am not sure what you are asking. However, I will throw some answers out and hope one of them addresses your question.

In infectious disease, the paradigm is that the more deadly an infection is, the less likely it is to spread. That's because the infected person dies quickly without having a chance to infect others. I think that there have probably been sporadic Ebola (and Marburg) outbreaks for millenia, but it was never identified because until recently, Africans never traveled outside of their villages much. Thus, the whole village would die and the infection would stop there. Ebola is a problem now because it reached populated, highly mobile areas.

The health care systems in the affected countries are horrible. Without care, the death rate is very high. With care, the death rate is somewhat lower (it is less than 60%, which makes it more mild than past outbreaks). With top-of-the-line care, the death rate would probably be far lower. This is strictly supportive care--electrolytes and treatment of complications.

82 posted on 09/20/2014 7:06:18 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: dangerdoc

Ebola is spread through contact with infected bodily fluids. It can spread through droplets, but is not airborne. Fomites may be a means of transmission, but there is no good data on that.

I could envision a situation where someone would have diarrhea, and flushing the toilet would propel droplets of Ebola contaminated liquid around the restroom, which might be highly infectious for a short period of time afterwards. I do not know if this is a plausible situation, however.


83 posted on 09/20/2014 7:16:29 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

The short question is what happens when all you medical resources become overwhelm by the sick and dying?

Say it spreads to the US and it only affects .5% thats 1.5 million between that the everyday strain that many health systems are already under you add in the toll the disease itself will take on health workers and what then?


84 posted on 09/20/2014 7:34:17 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: exDemMom
"I could envision a situation where someone would have diarrhea, and flushing the toilet would propel droplets of Ebola contaminated liquid around the restroom, which might be highly infectious for a short period of time afterwards. I do not know if this is a plausible situation, however."

Now place the toilet in your situation on a international flight.
85 posted on 09/20/2014 7:36:20 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Marie
Was this the thread?
86 posted on 09/30/2014 7:08:31 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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I think it is, but I’m not seeing where he said that the first case would hit the US by the last week of September. I know somebody said it in here.


87 posted on 09/30/2014 7:19:14 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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