Posted on 09/19/2014 8:46:26 AM PDT by scouter
To me the key is Logistical Support. If the infection rate and death rate rises to a point in which it over whelms the the systems Medical/Logistical support capabilities then the ‘genie’ is truly out of the bottle.
A truly serious as well as unknown factor will be people reactions and how much of government services, manpower and logistical support might have to be diverted to handle panic arising from such.
We are seeing this in Africa right now if it reaches a point in which it becomes unsafe or impossible for medical teams securely preform their duties the spread of the disease could quick start spreading virtually unchecked.
Most of the homes in America are probably superior to some of the primitive field clinics run by Africans.
Some of us forget that a typical American home is full of porcelain and stainless steel surfaces, a laundry room, tubs and showers, screened windows, scalding hot water, bleach, and antiseptics, air conditioning and communications, and people who can understand and follow basic medical instructions, and that will eagerly seek more knowledge and solutions to such medical threats to their families.
Our people eat vitamins and walk through drugstores and pharmacy and cleanser and disinfectant sections of grocery stores that are extraordinary, yet just a part of our daily shopping for bread and milk.
We are many stages ahead of where the Africans are. Even in mass catastrophes we have huge modern buildings to move people, to warehouse them and still have modern plumbing, and electricity and easy access and such, we even have vast amounts of plastic and construction goods and Home Depot materials and bedding to set up makeshift clinics in warehouses and other buildings, that again, would be the envy of African medical people. We even have the ability to move resources vast distances almost instantly, for example from Seattle to Chicago if needed.
None of this cures Ebola, but it sure is a different reality than what those poor saps in Africa face.
You mean like this?
Just a reminder: Soap breaks down viruses, but the last time I checked, anti-bacterial hand sanitizers did not break down viruses.
More bad news: The natural rate of epidemic growth varies from country to country. If this model separated the countries, the numbers would be even worse - FAR worse!
It was kind of a “joke post” meant to point out that our hygene standards are a bit higher and it seems to matter.
Yup.
If you can plot the projections on a semi-log scale, it will be easier to see where you see the disease upshifting to a higher gear.
It would not take long, for instance, for the sanitation workers to figure out they could be getting exposed to the disease and just not show up for work. We have seen how well a garbage worker's strike works in an urban area.
That, however, is just one of many sectors where employees might decide the paycheck is no longer worth the risk, and the absence of or undermanning of those sectors could lead to a breakdown of common services and a loss of civility which has the potential to spread far beyond areas directly affected by the disease, especially with the current social climate in the US having been whipped to a frenzy by recent events and the media.
I think the same quandry applies here as there: at what point do those who enforce a quarantine kill those seeking to escape it out of fear for their lives?
The very real possibilities get very ugly very fast as food, fuel, and other shipments are delayed or stop due to travel restrictions, hazards, or no-go areas.
The system is more fragile than many believe.
I have the data. I'll work on it.
I'll work on it.
There was a Model T and an MG rally going through the same time I was. The winding roads kept me awake. And when I went down a dirt road through that area I saw one of the largest bucks standing in the road, along side a big turkey.
I think I will come to your house instead.....
“The system is more fragile than many believe.”
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It is a just in time world!
We sometimes get both deer and turkeys milling around in the morning outside our bedroom window. Never at the same time though.
What happens if people do place themselves in self imposed quarantine? Who operates the system then?
Your model at this point is confined to rural West Africa.
Volunteers at best, it falls apart at worst.
I understood the joke (and I was amused). The image just reminded me of something worth pointing out.
However....it can’t be dismissed that only twice before has the Security Council met to discuss the security implications of a public health issue both times on the AIDS epidemic...and now Ebola....all relating to Africa.
I've broken the data down by country for those countries with intense outbreaks.
Relative to the other countries, Guinea isn't in that bad of shape. I was able to project out until June 30, 2015 without the numbers getting astronomical.
Scouter Ebola Projection Model Version 2.0 - Ebola Case Projections
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Projection Parameters
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Country: Guinea
Run Date/Time: 09/19/2014 at 14:46:33
Model: DTR Model
Start Date: 8/1/2014
End Date: 9/14/2014
Reported cases represent 100% of the true epidemic size
New Cases per Day at End of Period: 14
Rate of Increase per Day: 1.52%
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Weekly for the Next 8 Weeks
Date Cases Deaths Daily New Cases Daily New Deaths
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09/14/2014 942 467 14 7
09/21/2014 1,047 519 16 8
09/28/2014 1,164 577 17 9
10/05/2014 1,293 641 19 10
10/12/2014 1,437 713 22 11
10/19/2014 1,597 792 24 12
10/26/2014 1,775 880 27 13
11/02/2014 1,973 978 30 15
End of Month for the Next 2 Years from the End Date
Date Cases Deaths Daily New Cases Daily New Deaths
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09/30/2014 1,199 595 18 9
10/31/2014 1,914 949 29 14
11/30/2014 3,010 1,492 45 22
12/31/2014 4,805 2,382 72 36
01/31/2015 7,671 3,803 115 57
02/28/2015 11,703 5,802 175 87
03/31/2015 18,683 9,262 280 139
04/30/2015 29,378 14,564 440 218
05/31/2015 46,897 23,249 702 348
06/30/2015 73,743 36,558 1,104 547
Liberia's got problems. The numbers get so astronomical so quickly that it only made sense to graph the projections out to the end of this year, although I provide the numbers until the end of February. The problem is that the Daily Transmission Rate (DTR) is currently 4.072%. Clearly that's unsustainable, but that's what it is. Something's gotta give soon there.
Scouter Ebola Projection Model Version 2.0 - Ebola Case Projections
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Projection Parameters
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Country: Liberia
Run Date/Time: 09/19/2014 at 14:38:12
Model: DTR Model
Start Date: 8/1/2014
End Date: 9/14/2014
Reported cases represent 100% of the true epidemic size
New Cases per Day at End of Period: 106
Rate of Increase per Day: 4.07%
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Weekly for the Next 8 Weeks
Date Cases Deaths Daily New Cases Daily New Deaths
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09/14/2014 2,710 467 106 18
09/21/2014 3,584 618 140 24
09/28/2014 4,739 817 185 32
10/05/2014 6,266 1,080 245 42
10/12/2014 8,286 1,428 324 56
10/19/2014 10,957 1,888 429 74
10/26/2014 14,489 2,497 567 98
11/02/2014 19,159 3,302 750 129
End of Month for the Next 2 Years from the End Date
Date Cases Deaths Daily New Cases Daily New Deaths
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09/30/2014 5,132 884 201 35
10/31/2014 17,689 3,048 692 119
11/30/2014 58,578 10,094 2,292 395
12/31/2014 201,887 34,790 7,900 1,361
01/31/2015 695,796 119,903 27,225 4,692
02/28/2015 2,127,411 366,606 83,242 14,345
Sierra Leone is worse than Guinea, but not as bad as Liberia. Still, it only mad sent to graph the projections out to the end of April. I provide the numbers, though, through June 30, 2015.
Scouter Ebola Projection Model Version 2.0 - Ebola Case Projections
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Projection Parameters
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Country: Sierra Leone
Run Date/Time: 09/19/2014 at 14:50:15
Model: DTR Model
Start Date: 8/1/2014
End Date: 9/14/2014
Reported cases represent 100% of the true epidemic size
New Cases per Day at End of Period: 36
Rate of Increase per Day: 2.19%
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Weekly for the Next 8 Weeks
Date Cases Deaths Daily New Cases Daily New Deaths
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09/14/2014 1,673 467 36 10
09/21/2014 1,946 543 42 12
09/28/2014 2,265 632 48 14
10/05/2014 2,635 735 56 16
10/12/2014 3,065 856 66 18
10/19/2014 3,566 996 76 21
10/26/2014 4,149 1,158 89 25
11/02/2014 4,827 1,348 103 29
End of Month for the Next 2 Years from the End Date
Date Cases Deaths Daily New Cases Daily New Deaths
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09/30/2014 2,365 660 51 14
10/31/2014 4,623 1,290 99 28
11/30/2014 8,845 2,469 189 53
12/31/2014 17,293 4,827 370 103
01/31/2015 33,809 9,437 723 202
02/28/2015 61,947 17,292 1,325 370
03/31/2015 121,110 33,807 2,591 723
04/30/2015 231,714 64,680 4,957 1,384
05/31/2015 453,017 126,455 9,692 2,705
06/30/2015 866,733 241,939 18,543 5,176
Scouter’s revised Ebola projection bookmark
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