Why are homeschooled kids so annoying?

Catholic Exchange ^ | April 22, 2012 | Dwija Borobia

[codder too]

The idea of home schooled children not being socialized has been used as a scare tactic for years. Most homeschooled children are socially well adjusted.

Want to raise a SOCIALIST? Public education via Common(communist)Core will accomplish that for you.

[Navy Patriot]

School was invented to destroy the family. In the U.S., government school was imposed in order to destroy the family, Christianity, and the Constitution. The Unitarians/Communists/Progressives have always had a plan. The “conservatives” have had none.

Ya know, ya got a point there.

[pfflier]

I am a retired high school teacher. I could tell a home schooled kid the first day they were in the room

They had a better vocabulary than the their peers.

They could converse intelligently on an adult level and mostly didn't use slang or "street talk".

They had manners and social skills.

They were prepared for the day's activities.

[arthurus]

In public school children have for role models, at best older children but normally the "popular" kids.

Home schooled children have adults as role models. As a result they grow up when they grow up. They do not add to the millions (and steadily increasing) numbers of physically adult children in America today.

It used to be that children were raised to be adults. Their training from the time they could walk and talk was to that end. They contributed to the family sustenance by the time they were 10 or 12.

Our modern concept of "childhood" and especially "adolescence" is a new thing that came about because we grew rich and could afford to keep children truly dependent til now when children are a net heavy expense to a family rather than the investment they were in less prosperous times.

Now the attitude is universal that we must "let children be children" while we raise the age of entry into adulthood. There is no smooth transition now. It is a line that less and less even gets crossed.

[Steve_Seattle]

"The problem isn’t just government school. The problem is SCHOOL."

Back in the 70s there was a guy named Ivan Illich who wrote a book called "Deschooling Society." He was an ex-Catholic priest and kind of a lefty in some ways, but libs booed him when he presented his case on Carson or Cavett or one of the other late night shows. Even though Illich was a bit of a lefty himself, his anti-schooling message was considered a threat to the leftist agenda.

[Navy Patriot]

A child studying with his or her parents is being socialized with adults.

Important point.

[jonno]

bump

[i_robot73]

Winner of ‘best post in a thread’

I love the ‘horror stories’. “Oh, nos, xYz is under/over socialize”...But, dammit, they can find Scotland on a map, balance a checkbook, calculate, read, etc.

How’s that phrase go “Life if hard, but it’s harder...” Think I’ll take the ‘risk of annoying’

[Steve_Seattle]

"I am a retired high school teacher. I could tell a home schooled kid the first day they were in the room."

Public school defenders always insist that they can't do a good job without reducing class sizes. Well, home schooled kids have a class size (usually one to four) that public school teachers can only dream about. Home schoolers should toss THAT argument back at their critics.

[LibertarianLiz]

I mean kids who ask too many questions

This was my youngest daughter. One Saturday, I was doing laundry, and she was about 2 or 3. She came into the laundry room and asked what I was doing, I answered, she asked a 2nd question, I answered. Now, this went on for at least 5 or 6 questions. I just answered them because I was a stay-at-home Mom, and I was used to her asking all kinds of questions. Sometimes the same one, over and over. But, I could hear my husband laughing in the other room, and so could my daughter.

Well, she went into the other room, and boldly asked her father what he was laughing at. To which he replied; "I'm laughing at you driving your Mother nuts."

Btw, she was not homeschooled, both my girls were given a Catholic education from 1st grade thru 12th.

[Steve_Seattle]

What public school defenders REALLY fear is that home schooling actually sucks away the BEST students, NOT that home schooled kids will end up as anti-social weirdos and troublemakers. They fear that many of the best kids will be home schooled and that the public schools will be left with all the weirdos and troublemakers with parents who don’t care.

[kalee]

My standard reply to the socialization question was to list all the activities our son was involved in then state “if he were any more socialized we would not have time for school.”.

[dmz]

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I suspect that many, if not most, freepers were NOT homeschooled.

For the most part, we also use our brains, don’t follow the ‘piper’ and look for truth.

[Steve_Seattle]

"She came into the laundry room and asked what I was doing, I answered, she asked a 2nd question, I answered. Now, this went on for at least 5 or 6 questions."

I haven't been able to find it anywhere, and I don't know who did it, but there is a hilarious comedy routine about a father with a young child who keeps asking "Why?" The child starts off asking about some trivial thing - why the father is brushing his teeth, or why he has to go to work, or something similar - and a few questions later the father is having to answer questions about physics, the origin of the universe, the nature of morality, and so forth.

[Jim from C-Town]

If you don't encounter bullies in school where will you learn to knuckle under to tyranny when you are an adult.

Who is more of a bully/ The child who picks on a kid because he is insecure or the thug bureaucrat in the EPA who hounds an entire industry out of existence thereby bankrupting and destroying thousands of jobs? Perhaps they are one in the same.

[Steve_Seattle]

"I suspect that many, if not most, freepers were NOT homeschooled."

I went to Catholic schools when they were still Catholic and functioned almost as college prep schools. Reading and writing and basic math were emphasized; art and music were not emphasized, partly for financial reasons, partly because that time was used for religious instruction.

[petitfour]

Ever gone to a school for weird children? My daughters did. One of them is so weird, she was an outsider there, too. Lol. The other one fit in fine with the weird over achievers. But she is so annoying in her know it all ways. :-)

[9YearLurker]

So the writer was an obnoxious, know-it-all kid who never got over it, has similar kids, and wants people to embrace their brand of anti-social behavior instead of discouraging it.

[freedomfiter2]

Of course, back then perversion was learned on the play ground. Now it’s an important part of the curriculum.

[sima_yi]

Maybe the question is being misunderstood.

Perhaps what is being asked is not "How will the children become socialized (if they are homeschooled)?" but rather "How will the children become socialists?"