Posted on 09/16/2014 7:20:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz, if we get there.
The couldnt hit the side of a wH much less a mosque...
Not a very bright thing to say.
< The couldnt hit the side of a wH much less a mosque...
Not a very bright thing to say.
Oh it would be bright alright. I would guess most would know that was said in jest.
Hmmmmm...
Sorry. It looked to be a serious statement to a few.
> Sorry. It looked to be a serious statement to a few.
No one has to do anything to him. He’s doing it to himself...lol
“Should we make a red line? I wonder where we will lock our heels into the ground. I do not think the Ukraine is a good place, but it is scary to think about where we should. Western Ukraine, Lithuania, ..... Poland?”
For a while the Red Line was at the Russian border. Their military was an aging hulk and we were still living off our Cold War momentum. They would have been pressed to hold off an invasion from Estonia.
Then Putin came to power and decided that it was time to modernize the military and make it powerful again. At the same time, rather than matching his build up, we concentrated on making ours friendly for LGBTs and replacing generals with feminists. The military situation flipped 180 degrees. That pretty much was the end of us having a say in what Russia does.
So to answer your question, it’s probably best not to talk about red lines unless and until we GET SERIOUS about being ready to take action, since we will get TROUNCED in his backyard if we try to take him on now...and, contrary to what some people on THIS SITE seem to claim, the Belgium Army will not be very effective against him either (as an ally of ours). Unless we get serious about matching his capabilities and then adding in the capability to project our force, then it’s really his choice where to stop and even the people ON THIS SITE that want to start WW3 don’t seem to have any interest in upgrading our military...they still think it’s 1991 or something.
“I doubt that Putin really wants to fight us, but he can’t stop himself from kicking sand in the 90-lb. weakling’s face. He enjoys it and it plays well at home for him.”
Agree, but at some point he will get tired of our huffing, as it’s really hurting the Ruble now. At that point, maybe a pin-prick, which was always my fear during the Cold War. Back then, if they rolled through Fulda and took 50 square miles of West Germany, and stopped, and stayed there, would it be worth having every American city over 250,000 people vaporized?
Probably not...but the when the Soviets pressed Europe on trade terms, regarding the cost of goods and technology transfer, my guess is that the Europeans would then be far more considerate of their demands, than they otherwise might have been.
:)
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