Posted on 09/12/2014 7:42:44 PM PDT by xzins
20-to-1 says the ones applauding the rods, switches and paddles had a shi!t fit over the cute li’l puppy who was kicked by the CEO.
That may be true in some cases but not all. A good parent tells you why you are getting disciplined and hits you only in the butt. There's a difference between abusive adult actions vs lovingly applied discipline. Therein lies the distinction.
GOODNITE ALL.
Even after looking at those pics, taken a week after the beating, you think it shouldn’t be criminal to beat your 4 year old bloody? Add in a switch to the scrotum as well?
Sorry, I would literally have nothing to do with you IRL.
SMH
You very much implied it with "Prisons are full of.... bs...
/johnny
Punishment: FReeping late at night with JRF. ;-]
I would prefer to think of it as correction.
But that still doesn't get you dictionary definitions of discipline (noun and verb, and that's a hint) and punishment.
/johnny
Yea right.A puppy was punched on an elevator and hit the guardrail and was knocked out cold.A puppy was beaten by a branch made into a switched and had marks all over it legs and private parts and was bleeding.
No it's not....I spanked my kids and they knew why they were getting a licking too. Had nothing to do with parental failure, but it sure did on self-control I controlled the paddle......which incidentally my son had made himself. When the issues of spanking kids became a media hype I asked my grown sons if they ever felt they were abused. They 'laughed' and said of course not that they knew "corporate" punishment only came for the worst of the worst offenses....and that was rare. Then they said..."we had a "healthy" fear of that paddle and that kept us from doing what we might have otherwise done.
And let me further add.....when we see young kids screaming and yelling and kicking...fighting their parents... out in public...and it goes on and on...the psychological damage that does to a kid, for the duration of their tantrums, far 'exceeds' what a crack on the butt would to get them out of that tantrum.
But it's pretty sick.
/johnny
If these pictures were of their own daughter's child, and it was the child's father who created the marks (who of course would claim he "only did what was necessary" to impose discipline).... Are they saying they'd be okay with that? Honestly. They would be okay with their grandchild showing near-bleeding welts days AFTER the beating? I say B.S. I say they'd be after that SOB in ten seconds flat.
As a kid, my best friend’s mom would threaten us with her big wooden cooking spoon.
This isn’t personally directed at you xzins, but as a general comment.
I think that some want to mix their own personal nostalgia of their upbringing with this situation.
Everyone should ask themselves, if your child came home with these week-old physical wounds on him/her (displayed on these pictures) after staying at a relatives or friends home. What would you do?
I, for one, would personally make sure that the person that created these wounds (relative or not) would find out what it is like to be in a wheelchair.
When spanking was common, we used to see it delivered as measured punishment, not during a rage moment as this one seems to have been.
You like definitions.
Do you define what was done to this kid “correcting those you love” or “wanton cruelty”?
If you can’t tell the difference, that’s on you. But it’s pretty sick.
Actually, sheepherders DO set the dogs on sheep who won’t move. And I’ve helped a sheep rancher use a rubber hose to get sheep thru a ramp before.
Plus, children aren’t sheep. All analogies break down eventually.
Corporal punishment is definitely allowed and encouraged in the Bible.
“He who withholds his rod hates his son,
But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.”
I’m sorry, but that does not sound to me like encouragement to read the Bible to my kids regularly. That is a good thing too, but it is not what the verse is talking about.
The same goes for:
“Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child;
The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.”
“Do not hold back discipline from the child,
Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.
You shall strike him with the rod
And rescue his soul from Sheol.”
“A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey,
And a rod for the back of fools.”
Felony is good for me.
You nailed it as I was typing my comment. :)
But I've had welts like that, and don't overstate them, long after I was corrected.
They are welts, from a whipping.
They happen when you get caught doing something you aren't supposed to.
That's what law is. You get hurt when you do something wrong. Like not pay your taxes.
What is wanton, is hurting someone or some animal for doing nothing but existing.
That is wrong.
And needs correction.
/johnny
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