Legalizing Medical Marijuana May Reduce Opioid Deaths (Propaganda)

Thanks for the links. I’m sure the entitlement class will embrace the idea of legalizing it, then making it free (meaning, paid for by someone else).

21 posted on 08/27/2014 9:53:23 AM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)

To: mgist; GeronL

Isn’t this the same AMA that used kids to rail against the tobacco industry?

They are groovy with people smoking pot though?

Down is up.

22 posted on 08/27/2014 10:14:10 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)

To: lastchance; zipper; mgist

they really did not reach a conclusion.

Wrong: "in the years after the legalization of medical marijuana, states that did so had a rate that was 25% lower than what we’d expect to see in that state, given past trends and what was going on in the rest of the country."

23 posted on 08/27/2014 10:16:00 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)

I have money in Wall Street too buddy. The problem is that is what gave us Obama. There is a problem.

2009-U.S. Bank Bailout, Tax Payers Fund a Total of $11.6 Trillion
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aZchK__XUF84

2012- $29 TRILLION Secretly Taken from Federal Reserve and Given to Wall Street Banks.
http://www.economonitor.com/lrwray/2012/01/11/the-29-trillion-bailout-of-wall-street-why-should-anyone-care-about-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors/

2010-Mexican Drug Cartel Laundered Millions Via Bank Of America Into U.S. Horse Racing (Wells Fargo, Wachovia, Bank of America)
Wachovia alone admitted $378.4 billion for Mexican cartels from 2004 to 2007.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

British Bank HSBC US Influence Payment
CAMPAIGN Donations $3,150,230
LOBBYING $47,308,573
http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/hsbc-north-america/3c3f0a2212224ab38161e5c7abbb9fbe

5/2012-HSBC Mexican Drug Money in Obama’s 2008 Campaign?
http://larouchepac.com/node/22702

Real illicit drug revenue to criminal cartels must be much higher since Wachovia Bank alone admitted $378.4 billion for Mexican cartels in 3 years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

10/2012-HSBC to Pay $1.92 Billion to Settle Charges of Money Laundering
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/hsbc-said-to-near-1-9-billion-settlement-over-money-laundering/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

2012-Obama Administration Official, Bob Werner, Hired by HSBC
http://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/home/about/press-room/2012/news_12102012_werner_appointment

10/21012-HSBC Picks Up Another Obama Administration Official, Preeta Bansal.
http://www.americanbanker.com/people/hsbc-picks-up-another-obama-administration-official-1053825-1.html

2013-Meet Federal Employees David S. Cohen of Treasury and Stuart Levey of HSBC – Or Is It the Other Way Around?
http://alternativebanking.nycga.net/2013/03/09/meet-david-s-cohen-of-treasury-and-stuart-levey-of-hsbc-or-is-it-the-other-way-around/

Corruption: Exposing Barack Obama’s Illegal Foreign Campaign Money Loophole
Katie Pavlich | Oct 08, 2012
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposing_barack_obamas_illegal_foreign_campaign_money_loophole

09/2013- Obama, Holder let another big bank off the hook
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-holder-let-another-big-bank-the-ho

1/2014-HSBC Launders DRUG MONEY. Pays Fine Using Bailout Money!
http://investmentwatchblog.com/hsbc-launders-drug-money-pays-fine-using-bailout-money/#7RQyhMdBDirjcs9m.99

ILLEGAL OBAMA DONORS: MIDDLE EASTERN ARABS 08/04/2008
Gazan brothers’ illicit contributions listed in government campaign filings
http://www.wnd.com/2008/08/71431/#u3J1m8mt0dpAUqjW.99
Obama’s Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes -2008
By Pamela Geller
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

Real Illicit Drug Money for Cartels Should be Much Higher Since Wachovia admitted to Laundering $378 BILLION for Mexican Cartels from 2004-2007.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

2011 Obama DOJ Gave Cartel Enough Guns to Arm a Marine Regiment
http://townhall.com/columnists/katiepavlich/2011/07/26/obama_doj_gave_cartel_enough_guns_to_arm_a_marine_regiment/page/full

2011: SEC Ignores Rampant Money Laundering
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
“How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico’s murderous drug gangs.”

09/2013- Obama, Holder let another big bank off the hook
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-holder-let-another-big-bank-the-ho

1/2014-HSBC Launders DRUG MONEY. Pays Fine Using Bailout Money!
http://investmentwatchblog.com/hsbc-launders-drug-money-pays-fine-using-bailout-money/#7RQyhMdBDirjcs9m.99

Wall Street Banks are illegally Laundering Drug Money with Impunity.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/money-laundering-and-the-drug-trade-the-role-of-the-banks/5334205

“Meanwhile, finance and real estate sectors in Mexico and the United States are awash with cartel profits, with one United Nations analyst arguing that drug money was the “only liquid investment capital” that kept the international economy from completely” imploding in 2008
http://m.thenation.com/article/180587-how-mexican-drug-trade-thrives-free-trade

House Votes to Allow Marijuana Related Banking 7/16/2014
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/house-supports-easier-marijuana-related-banking-24588337

Abattis Makes History as First Marijuana Stock to List on Prestigious OTCQX
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/abattis-makes-history-as-first-marijuana-stock-to-list-on-prestigious-otcqx-2014-07-15

Wall Street has given more to Obama’s Political Campaign than Any Other Politician in History.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&=&v=zt3vwWfP-EA

The Federal Reserve Deception
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/fed_reserve.htm

Century of Enslavement
http://www.corbettreport.com/federalreserve/#comments

24 posted on 08/27/2014 10:19:47 AM PDT by mgist (.)

“What does illegal heroin have to do with the pharmaceutical industry?”

Well, the brain doesn’t distinguish between heroin and pharmaceutical opiates. If you’re addicted to one, you are basically addicted to any/all of them, since they will all satisfy your cravings to some degree.

25 posted on 08/27/2014 10:29:06 AM PDT by Boogieman

Spare me your list of links, I’m not buying what you are selling.

26 posted on 08/27/2014 10:30:14 AM PDT by Boogieman

Post this list of links every time you comment. Add this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpO-WBz_mw

27 posted on 08/27/2014 10:33:43 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui

To: ConservingFreedom

Not proof of cause and effect — not a conclusion. It doesn’t exclude other factors. It’s an interesting insight, nothing more.

See article title.

28 posted on 08/27/2014 10:41:58 AM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)

"in the years after the legalization of medical marijuana, states that did so had a rate that was 25% lower than what we’d expect to see in that state, given past trends and what was going on in the rest of the country."

Not proof of cause and effect

Correct.

— not a conclusion.

That doesn't follow and is not correct.

29 posted on 08/27/2014 10:48:55 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)

To: ConservingFreedom

The article has the title it has because they couldn’t conclude otherwise. JAMA wouldn’t let them get away with it.

“Legalizing Medical Marijuana May Reduce Opioid Deaths”

30 posted on 08/27/2014 10:58:42 AM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)

Yup. I don’t even particularly like taking advil or asperin, but I really hate what the WOD has done to this nation. It has been a war of evil and cynical manipulation to increase government power at all costs to the great detriment of our rights.

31 posted on 08/27/2014 11:01:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Islam: The Antidote for civilization)

To: ConservingFreedom

You can bet your ass if the study showed the opposite, they’d be touting it as “PROOF”. Period.

32 posted on 08/27/2014 11:02:42 AM PDT by Wolfie

To: Yollopoliuhqui

That is a good link.

Another one I can't wait to read is:

Dope, Inc: Britain's Opium War Against the World Paperback – October 20, 2010

The Opium Wars of 1840-1860 were dark chapters in the history of colonialism, when Britain made war on the Chinese to force them to import thousands of tons of opium, which crippled and impoverished their nation. It's much less well-known that the Opium Wars never really ended. The United States, like China, was too great for the London money lords to occupy directly. One way America is being brought to heel is by the drug trade. Crime and other social problems in the U.S. and Mexico are massively influenced by drugs and drug dealing. Illicit drugs may now account for as much as $1 trillion annually in financing for criminal activity and corruption.

33 posted on 08/27/2014 12:27:22 PM PDT by mgist (.)

There is no “War on Drugs”. If you believe that that WOD is the cause of destruction in this country, you are one of the millions influenced by the cartels deception.

Pure, cheap, heroin is easier for kids to get than beer. The “Just Say No” has turned into “Legalize it, it’s Medicinal”.

Heroin and all kinds of opiates are legal, legal Rx opiates are abused in epidemic numbers, and neither medical marijuana nor legal opiates Rx have done anything to eliminate the black market. They simply provide more users, acceptance, and cover for the street dealers.

Kids these days don’t stand a chance. Russia, China, and Iran, are all slave nations with epidemic addiction rates, that is what they want to do to us. Take care of your families.

Rockefeller was rumored to have a family history supporting Eugenics, I found their connection to Margaret Sanger, and the Planned Parenthood abortion industry in their own archive.

Letter from Lawrence B. Dunham to Raymond B. Fosdick, 1931 February 06
http://rockefeller100.org/items/show/2562

David Rockefeller speech on Population Control. Tell me this guy isn’t a sociopath.

Rockefellers Own Words on Population control
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

34 posted on 08/27/2014 12:40:34 PM PDT by mgist (.)

35 posted on 08/27/2014 12:45:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")

Whatever makes you happy. I just don't think ANY drugs should be allowed past our borders. All kinds of crazy crap is coming in. Even the Chinese fake pot that has killed people. This stuff should never be available to kids, and people need to be told the truth.

Permanent brain damage:

“Research has shown that IQ is a strong determinant of a person’s access to a college education, their lifelong total income, their access to a good job, their performance on the job, their tendency to develop heart disease, Alzheimer’s disease, and even early death,” she said.

“Individuals who lose eight IQ points in their teens and 20s may be disadvantaged, relative to their same-age peers, in most of the important aspects of life and for years to come.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9426205/Cannabis-smoking-permanently-lowers-IQ.html

http://www.livescience.com/22711-smoking-marijuana-lowers-iq.html

Depression, schizophrenia:

http://learnaboutmarijuanawa.org/factsheets/mentalhealth.htm

http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Hearts_and_Minds/Smoking_Cessation/Marijuana_and_Mental_Illness.htm

Lungs

Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm

36 posted on 08/27/2014 1:31:40 PM PDT by mgist (.)

To: ConservingFreedom

They also admitted the need for further investigation to determine if that was the sole cause. Please understand I am 100% in favor of medical marijuana. I don’t think the study was propaganda.

” Further investigation is required to determine how medical cannabis laws may interact with policies aimed at preventing opioid analgesic overdose.”

37 posted on 08/27/2014 3:31:39 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)

International Journal of Cancer; June 30, 2014 =>

"Results from our pooled analyses provide little evidence for an increased risk of lung cancer among habitual or long-term cannabis smokers, although the possibility of potential adverse effect for heavy consumption cannot be excluded.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.29036/abstract

38 posted on 08/27/2014 5:44:40 PM PDT by Ken H

The article has the title it has because they couldn’t conclude otherwise. JAMA wouldn’t let them get away with it.

Where is it written that titles are always identical to conclusions (or lack thereof)? "In the years after the legalization of medical marijuana, states that did so had a rate that was 25% lower than what we’d expect to see in that state, given past trends and what was going on in the rest of the country" is a conclusion, while not being a practical title (nor a proof of cause and effect).

39 posted on 08/28/2014 8:26:07 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)

Yes, correlation is not causation only when the correlation runs counter to Drug Warrior ideology.

40 posted on 08/28/2014 8:27:39 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)

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