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NCSEN: Conservatives NOT touting Tillis. NRSC toadie PISSED OFF
beaufortobserver.net ^ | 8/14/14 | Brant Clifton

Posted on 08/14/2014 5:07:23 AM PDT by cotton1706

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21 posted on 08/14/2014 7:11:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: RIghtwardHo

They won’t get the Senate back in 2016, they lose that race.

O’bastard is souring the public on demonrats, they will be more so by then.


22 posted on 08/14/2014 7:21:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Vinnie

Then don’t dump and rain on your base. The same ones you will need to win.


23 posted on 08/14/2014 7:36:30 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: Vinnie
Are you gonna tell me Romney wouldn’t have done better?

I agree with you on your two points: the economy would be better, and we would be standing with Israel, and both of those are salient and significant.

My concern is that there is another lesson to be learned from the history of GOP politics in the recent century. With two exceptions--Harding/Coolidge and Reagan--every time a Republican has been in office, the progressives have been able to get their camel's nose in yet another tent, and then tear down the tent when their President comes in office later. Hoover gave us the New Deal, though of course he didn't call it that; FDR simply expanded on the post-crash acts passed in his predecessor's administration. Nixon gave us the EPA, wage and price controls, and the detachment of the dollar from gold, all of which has been used subsequently to great effect by Democrat administrations, up to and including our own. The Bush 41 tax hikes opened the door for the later Clinton tax hikes, and the Bush 43 TARP opened the door for Obama's crony socialism. One could even point to Reagan's 1986 attempts at bipartisan compromise on the issues of tax reform and illegal immigration, and the results that came from both: the Dems eventually got all that they wanted, simply by waiting out the GOP and getting Clinton in office six years later.

The only reason Obamacare will collapse, if it indeed collapses, will be because some early version of it wasn't passed in the McCain administration, as would almost certainly have occurred, and the only reason amnesty hasn't been passed is because we don't have Jeb Bush or Chris Christie or Mitt Romney in the White House suggesting some watered-down version of it "for the good of the nation," which the subsequent Hillary! or Warren or Booker administration would expand, to become what the progressives always wanted in the first place.

The difference is that progressives are quite happy with incrementalism, while the GOPe think of politics as the art of bipartisan compromise, and the result is a codependency that leads to a dysfunctional government. I am outflanked by no one by my despise of the policies of the Obama administration, but when the Dems are in control and out in the open, they can be fought head-on by someone willing to fight when them head-on (cf. Carter by Reagan), but when the GOP is in the White House and the Dems have any power, even if it is only the power of filibustering the Senate or having their judges rule in their favor, the common practice has been attempt at compromise, which results in incrementalism, which results in the Dems winning in the long run.

24 posted on 08/14/2014 8:04:00 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: cotton1706

Have no fear, I may be one person, but I am helping make a difference here in North Carolina down here in Wilmington (after having moved here from Indiana last year)! There are conservatives fighting the good fight.


25 posted on 08/14/2014 10:43:26 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: cotton1706

Tillis record is marginally worse than Hagan’s on immigration.

Hagan thoughtlessly voted with 67 Senators for the gang of 8 bill which was largely dead anyway.

But Hagan voted with 36 Republicans and 4 Democrats to stop the adorable 2010 Dream Act.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3174451/posts?page=4
““Our advertising was terrific,” Rove declared on the call, and Tillis gave credit to Crossroads for his victory, saying in his smooth drawl that the group’s “contribution can’t be overstated.”

December 2012 Tillis:“The other thing we’re going to do is send a very clear message to Washington that they can make our job a lot easier if they would deal with the issue that they’ve kicked down the road – Republicans and Democrats – for many, many years.”

http://www.hpe.com/news/x1576248598/McCrory-accuses-furniture-industry-on-illegal-labor

August 2013:
The GOP governor accused High Point area manufacturers of backing a bill McCrory vetoed that allows employers extra time to verify the legal status of a worker. The N.C. General Assembly this week overrode McCrory’s veto from earlier this summer of legislation that extends from three months to nine months the amount of time an employee can draw a paycheck without having his or her legal status cleared though a federal database known as E-Verify.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/15/3109599/mccrory-vetoes-first-bill-drug.html

Tillis said the immigration bill was designed to help alleviate the problems that employers in the state face because of federal immigration procedures and policies.

“The regulatory burden and complexity caused by federal inaction requires us to consider stop-gap measures while we wait for politicians in D.C. to take action,” he said. “This bill received strong bipartisan support and sought to provide clarity to employers and agencies regarding the impact of illegal immigration in North Carolina.”

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/15/3109599/mccrory-vetoes-first-bill-drug.html#storylink=cpy

All Democrats and half of the Republicans in NC voted for Tillis hire-an-illegal bill.


26 posted on 08/14/2014 9:37:42 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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